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The schools & police trampling on student rights don't understand the true meaning of "trespassing"
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There is no form of effective protest of which is “acceptable”. Protests are meant to disrupt, to get as much attention as possible in order to spread a message and bring action, and those who oppose the protest will always object to that no matter what. That’s the point.
For protesters to act so socked that they’re getting arrested for protesting against the power elites at their schools while on private property seems pretty naive to me. They should have known that this would be the eventual outcome and to have been prepared for it. Not to say it should have stopped the protests from happening— just that, for protests to be effective, it has to piss off the right people, and you’ll likely get arrested, free speech be damned.
If the point is to be disruptive, then loudly pointing out they are getting arrested for protesting is on brand and should be expected. The real question is why are you confused they continue to protest after being arrested?
Maybe he thinks that arresting anyone who opposes genocide is the right thing to do.
I never said I was confused
No but i did, and that was being charitable
If you think insults are charity, it would appear that you’re the one who is confused.
Since you haven’t proven any of those accusation, this seems just another obvious insult and your inability to use the word “charity” correctly.
If you get this uncontrollably nasty just because an internet stranger said something that made you mad, perhaps it’s time to go outside for a break. Perhaps enjoy some nice herbal tea.
Best of luck with your emotional and vocabulary issues.
You may complain to a moderator, but the statement still stands. Assuming you are confused, is very charitable assumption to make about your stance. Your going to have to point out the nasty part of my comment
Perhaps you shouldn’t keep making assumptions. That doesn’t seem to be working out for you.
I try to assume the best of people. And my assumption was that you were wrong because you didn’t know better, and that you were not a tool. You are right, it hasn’t been the best guess i could have made.
All evidence to the contrary
Your first mistake, but, unlike you, I don’t get all nasty when people make those. Also, you haven’t really proven that I was wrong, either.
Nor was devolving into juvenile insults based off of hurt feelings.
Best of luck!
Calling another user AT BEST ignorant and at worst a useful moron definitely got your comment removed.
Arguing in bad faith and trolling gets this comment removed.
I’m not under any obligation to you, lol. YOU are, on the other hand, under an obligation to remain civil and obey the rules here.
And if imagining me being upset satisfies some sadistic urge for you, go ahead. I think it’s silly, but whatever.
Good luck on being a better person!
Calling another user AT BEST ignorant and at worst a useful moron definitely got your comment removed.
Arguing in bad faith and trolling gets this comment removed.
Your lack of self-awareness is not my responsibility to resolve.
I suggest that you take your own advice regarding your own ignorance.
When you're paying 40k a year to attend their hedge fund with a sports team, there shouldn't be much of any place that's off limits to you.
And it seems rare that college kids get arrested en masse. So they're right to be at least a little surprised that this protest got cracked down on so hard.
I’m sure they’re normally allowed to be where they’re standing. If they’re asked to leave/disband, and they remain, it’s considered trespassing.
I think you forgot the /s
I’m really not sure what the appropriate reaction should be. Are they meant to celebrate getting arrested? It’s an expected outcome, but that doesn’t make it right.
don't be obtuse
i didn't say that
not to be surprised that it happened, for one. and, while universities do generally, have an atmosphere which support free expression, and many even have somewhat permissive protest policies, they're private property. now, i'm not defending the actions of the universities, but i'm saying that getting arrested for protesting on private property vs while protesting on public property are two different things-- and one isn't nearly as outrageous as the other.
part of civil disobedience is getting arrested.
To be honest I haven’t seen anyone act surprised because they’re getting arrested for protesting. Then again, I’m not American, and the only news I’m reading are here on lemmy (and reddit).
I think it's the fact that they are arrested and very rarely actually charged with a crime, which essentially amounts to state sanctioned kidnapping.
But otherwise I do agree with you.
That’s one way to look at it. Another is that, rather than truly outrageously throwing the book at these protesters, the worst they got was a massive inconvenience.
Now, I’m not trying to downplay getting arrested - even brutally so. I have been arrested at protests by some nasty pigs who beat the shit out of me, and I have spend nights in jail as a result. I know how bad that shit sucks.
What I’m saying is that it’s what they signed up for. And if they want to protest police brutality, go do that, too, but don’t act all shocked that this happened.
Edit: in an ideal world, protesters would be treated with dignity and respect— but if we lived in an ideal world, there would be no need to protest.
Fair points. I just really hate the state monopoly on violence that they love to use almost exclusively on leftwing protests. If other such protesters were arrested as well, it would be less grating on my morals.
Me too