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The number of buyers in the U.S. considering an electric vehicle purchase in 2024 has fallen from a year ago due to a shortage of affordable cars, inadequate charging infrastructure and ignorance about EV benefits, a study by J.D. Power, opens new tab has shown.

Other factors contributing to waning EV demand in the United States include stubborn inflation, high interest rates and underwhelming growth in model availability, the study said.

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[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

1 extra year will help to see how the batteries actual perform. After 10 years a Tesla's battery is under 80% of its original capacity, you're at the point of losing 1/4, 25%, of range. Not sure how many fail completely.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention many live in cold climates 1/3+ of the year, further impacting EV capacity. That's the killer for me currently. I can't not go to work for a week due to a cold snap.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago

If you can't get to work during a cold snap than either you are not charging your battery (that is your stupid fault), or live a lot farther from work than the average person and really need to move anyway.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I can’t not go to work for a week due to a cold snap.

Are you working 100+ miles away from home? On a 300 mile per useful charge battery, you temporarily lose about 20% usefulness to extreme cold, that still leaves you with 270 total range. So assuming you work 100 miles away, and do zero charging at work, you'd still have 170 miles of range to get back home in the cold.

If you can charge at work, this becomes even easier.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've heard it's closer to 40% range loss. And yes, I do work that far away at times. Yes it's a separate issue how far I need to go, with no good solutions as my spouse works in the opposite direction.

So 20% capacity loss due to age and add another 40% loss ( idk if that's true, but I've read it in articles on Lemmy) is a huge issue for some.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’ve heard it’s closer to 40% range loss.

Maybe at -40 degrees if you leave your car outside in the weather. Granted I park my EV in my garage and the coldest its been since I've owned it has been maybe -10 degrees F (-24 degrees C).

So 20% capacity loss due to age

20% from age you'd only see after 12 or more years. If you're charging at home instead of DC fast charging it will likely be less degradation that that even.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Interesting, glad to hear it takes that long to decrease that much. I also don't have a garage to charge in either.

How much range did you lose at -10F? Where I live it isn't unusual to have stretches of -20 for a week at a time.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How much range did you lose at -10F?

Thats the temporary 20% range reduction I referred to.

Where I live it isn’t unusual to have stretches of -20 for a week at a time.

Do you have block heaters for your ICE vehicles because of that cold and parking outside?

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Nah, it's not really an issue unless You're around -40 or have a diesel. Or if you have an older battery.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

In Canada in places where it gets really cold, it used to be common to plug in your car for the block heater in your engine.