this post was submitted on 16 May 2024
155 points (98.7% liked)

World News

39032 readers
2973 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The U.S. military finished installing a floating pier for the Gaza Strip on Thursday, with officials poised to begin ferrying badly needed humanitarian aid into the enclave besieged over seven months of intense fighting in the Israel-Hamas war.

The final, overnight construction sets up a complicated delivery process more than two months after U.S. President Joe Biden ordered it to help Palestinians facing starvation as food and other supplies fail to make it in as Israel recently seized the key Rafah border crossing in its push on that southern city on the Egyptian border.

Fraught with logistical, weather and security challenges, the maritime route is designed to bolster the amount of aid getting into the Gaza Strip, but it is not considered a substitute for far cheaper land-based deliveries that aid agencies say are much more sustainable. The boatloads of aid will be deposited at a port facility built by the Israelis just southwest of Gaza City and then distributed by aid groups.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But then decided to send another billion in weapons to Israel.

Their cognitive dissonance is astounding.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As an American, I would just like to say I’m fucking infuriated by how my government is handling this shit. Moreover, most of us who aren’t in the throes of the Trump cult are at the very least least dismayed with what our government is doing (that is, giving Israel a military aid firehose and doing fuck all to actually try to stop them from committing genocide).

We’ve got several crimes against humanity under our belt. I, for one, would very much like to avoid adding another. But Biden doesn’t seem to give a shit. And this also has the horrifying possibility of throwing the election, which would herald a whole hell of a lot of things that would be terrible for far, far more people in far more places than just Gaza (though, to be clear, Gaza would probably get fully genocided - maybe by US B-52s, if Trump wins it).

I fucking hate our political system so much. It’s so fundamentally and obviously broken, and the only people who can fix it are the same people who benefit from it being broken, so it’s going to stay broken. Who knows what will end up breaking through that deadlock… I’m just getting pretty fucking concerned that it’s gonna involve some political violence sometime soon.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It's not that Biden doesn't give a shit. It's that Biden agrees with Bibi that the people living in Gaza are Dirty Others who must be kept in line with the threat of force.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t agree.

I think this is honestly just the typical boomer “back Israel to the hilt because Jewish people got absolutely fucked by the Holocaust”, while simultaneously flat out ignoring the fact that Israel != all Jewish people.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'd at it's more 'there are two regional powers here, Israel and Iran. The more aid we give Israel the easier it makes Iran"

Edit: weaker* it makes Iran

Fucking autocorrect.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And that zero-sum game thinking is idiotic.

Frankly, if we (read: mainly the US and the UK) made amends with Iran (and I know precisely how enormous of a conditional statement that is), and successfully ameliorate and rationalize their policy towards Israel (i.e. convince them to call off their own frankly genocidal policy towards Israel), that could be the the start of the path towards a much more robust peace in the middle east. It’ll likely take several generations to mellow things to a truly sustainable and reasonable level. But something like that might, I believe, be the start of the path to lasting peace in the Middle East - or at the very least, significantly diminished violence and conflict.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We had a tiny chance when Obama and Rouhani were talking. Hell, at one point we had a treaty. There was a road map and some hope.

Then Trump fucked it all up for no reason, along with all the other shit he pulled.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I mean… he fucked it up because one of the primary motivations of his entire goddamn presidency was to just shit in as many punch bowls with which Obama was even remotely affiliated.

Also, he’s deeply racist, and he’s also sore that Obama got a zinger in at the Press Correspondents dinner that one time (for real - but for one joke that a psychopath took poorly, we might have avoided the Trumpian era).

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

By that logic, these two things are the same as long as we elect boomer government officials.

Again, no.

The two things are being treated as the same by the Biden administration.

Don’t ignore nuance. Ignoring nuance is what Netanyahu and the Israeli is actively trying to get everyone to do to, in the interest of giving themselves some geopolitical cover for executing their own “final solution” in Gaza.

Ignoring nuance is also what a lot of other autocrats and populists are trying to do in their own way, including Orban, Modi, Milei, Fico (to whom I wish a very slow, lengthy, and complicated convalescence), Trump, and Putin - along with much (or most) of the political parties behind them. It’s all in the interest of solidifying autocratic power and wealth, and scapegoating problems on people who are not the root cause of said problems (a common populist tactic).

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Biden is the one who decided, against Congress orders, to hold back the bomb shipment. The GOP was actively drafting legislation to push them out over his head when he allowed it through trying to skip becoming a Republican talking point.. but I really wish he didn’t capitulate to the GOP’s desires so easily.