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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Wtf, who is upvoting this, this is alarming

I strongly suspect that most of the people on the left are also carrying all the signs on the right

And that the person writing the cartoon is planning move on to targeting the next-least-acceptable sign from the pile on the right, as soon as the one on the left is dealt with. This thing of slicing off segments of dissenting opinion to shut them down one at a time, in separation from their natural cohort of supporting allies, by driving wedges in between them, is fairly normal "advanced fascism from people who know how to get it done on the ground" tactics.

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't think it's trying to slice off segments of dissenting opinion so much as highlighting the all or nothing nature of single issue voters.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I guess I should have paid more attention to the title -- applying it to a "single issue voter" (or, non-voter, I guess) who really is throwing all the stuff on the right in the garbage, in the (incorrect) belief that they're helping the Palestinians, when in reality they're just threatening to make things worse for literally everybody, makes sense.

I just don't think that's most of the people in the tents or carrying the signs. If they had constructed the cartoon to attack all the people on Lemmy who don't want to vote because Biden personally killed all those Gazans and loves that the war is happening, or whatever they are claiming is happening, then that makes sense. But attacking the protestors themselves seems wrong.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I think ~~OP~~ the artist is doing kind of a visual strawman here, as also mentioned by this person.

I don’t see evidence at all that any significant number of pro-Palestine individuals are single issue voters. Someone made a claim that 3% of democratic voters were single issue, but upon inquiry it turned out to be without source, and that the true number is less than 2% of all voters at the very absolute most.

As of now, I need more evidence to disprove my belief that this post is just an outrageously patronizing false generalization of the pro-Palestine movement.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You will have difficulty finding that evidence, I think

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

how do you mean? (/gen as in it would be hard to poll? or that the evidence doesn’t exist? sorry im dense sometimes)

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Meaning that you likely can't find that evidence, because the post is indeed an outrageously patronizing false generalization etc etc. 🙂

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 6 months ago

slay tyvm 💅

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

The "most" is not the subject. It's the few who are single topic voters.