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[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When you don't actively kick out the terrible people in your group, you are making a choice to say "this is something I am willing to tolerate." So I'll ask, if you are a conservative and recognize that there are bad actors in your conservative party, are you calling out those bad actors? Or just putting your head down and joining rank and file because your party told you to?

[–] democracy1984@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, it's basically impossible to get rid of supreme court justices, and for good reason. It allows them to rule on cases based only on what they legitimately believe to be the correct decision. The supreme court's job isn't to decide right from wrong, it's to decide legal from illegal. If you don't like their ruling, the way to change it should be through Congress, not though the courts.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It allows them to rule on cases based only on what they legitimately believe to be the correct decision.

I wish I was this blissfully ignorant.

[–] democracy1984@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What other reasons would they have to make the rulings they do?

[–] democracy1984@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not a member of a political party. I vote for candidates, not parties. If you just vote for a specific party, which ever one that may be, that's lazy. I don't care if they're republican or democrat, I care about what they value.

Also, you can't really actively kick out member from a party, all you can do is just not vote for them.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is so hilariously uneducated to the current political situation that I really hope you're arguing in bad faith instead of just that stupid.

[–] democracy1984@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter what the political situation is, you should vote for specific candidates, not just blindly vote for your party, whichever one that may be, and then call anyone who doesn't fully support your party evil.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter what the political situation is

You seem like an idealist, which I have some respect for, but you also have to account for reality. And the reality is, we don't really vote for individual candidates anymore. We vote for one party or the other to have an additional vote. Elected politicians hardly ever vote outside of their party anymore. It's not ideal but it is reality. If you vote for multiple candidates of different political parties, you're just making noise.

[–] democracy1984@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that's a bad systematic problem. But voting based on the candidate should help to slowly fix it. While there is a very clear difference between democrat and republican, there are still differences between candidates of the same party.

If you vote only for the candidates that are closest to the center, then candidates will compete to be closer. But if you just vote for a party, then the candidates have to no incentive to compete.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That presupposes that you want a centralist government in power.