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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This makes a strong case on the discovery side of the discovery vs. invention controversy.

Ironically, my dad idolized Pythagoras and the notion of discovering a scientific fundamental to be remembered for thousands of years, for which the secret is not to actually do science, but raise a cult of scientists who attribute their inventions to you. Like Thomas Edison.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

raise a cult

*cough* Elon Musk *cough*

[–] Jessvj93@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Edison, Watson/Crick, Musk, Jobs....I hope today it's much harder to get away with being an idea stealing tool bag since the internet has competent archivers, sans working under a company that owns anything you make.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

As in turns out, Watson and Crick may not have actually stolen anything from Rosalind Franklin after all. If you're interested, I found an article I read regarding it about a year back. A couple of researchers provide some interesting info and context that make the original data stealing narrative less certain.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/rosalind-franklin-dna-structure-watson-crick

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It was most of the Greeks. We credit Democritus with atomism even though the Greeks said it came from an earlier Phoenician, Mochus of Sidon. Even Democritus's teacher doesn't get credit.

Democritus wrote it down in a way that survived.

That's it.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Not really. The Pythagorean theorem (or whomever you want to credit for it) assumes plane geometry. It’s not true in general.

Plane geometry is the invention that makes all of the math work. The earth is not a flat plane (not even close to flat pretty much anywhere). If you want to do Pythagorean-like calculations between cities on earth, for example, you’ll get a much more accurate result with spherical geometry operating on geodesics. Unfortunately, spherical triangles not obey the Pythagorean theorem!

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

🎶 They say Thomas Edison he’s the man to bring us into this century

And that man is me…