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[–] dylanmorgan 61 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Voting for someone who is less bad is harm reduction. You can do harm reduction, while loudly proclaiming that it fucking sucks there’s not a better option, and working to provide better options.

I hate Biden. But I hate (and fear) the prospect of a second trump term more.

[–] transmatrix@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I'm all for massive reform, and I'm definitely no fan of Biden, but compared to Trump he's the only option. It a choice between having a broken country, or not having a country at all. (To not even mention the issues regarding the climate, which clearly Trump's the worst choice for.)

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's like they're completely oblivious as to why Hillary Clinton lost in the first place.

It's because THIS SHIT points around frantically ISN'T WORKING.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"Are we wrong? No, it must be the voters who are wrong, they just don't realize how great we are!"

Clinton lost because she was yet another unappealing candidate in a long line of more of the same. The Democrats would rather let Republicans destroy the country than engage in the tiniest bit of reflection and admit that their platform is unpopular and needs to change drastically.

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago

and you would rather prevent harm reduction out of misguided pride. no one is denying the democratic platform sucks. but hey have you heard about voting for the lesser of 2 evils in a crap 2 party system?

[–] RandomGuy79@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

That and rural voters won't choose a woman

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

*way more

Trump is an existential crisis for enlightenment democracy. I know there are a lot of people on here who take pleasure in this, because they are privileged enough to feel safe. But there are also many more who will be harmed by American fascism far beyond what the simpleminded cynics fear.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While there are plenty of people that can keep the big picture in mind, unfortunately there are a critical mass of people who will get disenfranchised.

2016 was just 2 elections ago, and we seem to have forgotten the lessons from it. And Biden barely won in 2020.

Don't let Trump win again because your loud dissent disenfranchised too many voters because the most important reason to vote blue was lost in the weeds - to literally fight fascists from completely taking the country over.

This is not hyperbole. This is literally their goal, and they say it all the fucking time.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 6 months ago

i really do hate that this is the way things are, and that people seem to cope with this, but frankly, as long as someone is capable of understanding how fucking shit everything is first, before having an opinion on who is good/bad, is honestly IMO, going to lead to a better outcome.

I hate when people are like "yeah but it's the least worst person" and people who are also like "yeah im never fucking voting for them because they suck mildly bad lmao" Shit sucks, there is only one way to cause change. It's really not that complicated.