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Apple introduces M4 chip (www.apple.com)

submitted 6 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

One BILLION dollars for 32 gigs of ram.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Prices have dropped then!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I still can't run basic ml stuff. I can't play the vast majority of video games. I have to put up with the same sentiment that Microsoft brings to their products, that you are just renting your computer from Apple. The hardware looks bad ass. Too bad its apple.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

looking forward to linux being able to run hard and solid on them

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I wouldn’t use asahi Linux on a Mac but it would be amazing on a iPad.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

and I do.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Going from 1 TB to 2 TB SSD on this iPad is somehow $400? That is a clown price but it is a 50% discount on going from 512 GB to 1 TB. What the actual fuck?

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Going from 512GB to 1TB is also going from 8GB to 16GB RAM.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

8GB should like be illegal, lol. Wonder if you can upgrade it (or is it soldered) or if it's just for the landfill.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All of Apple’s M series chips have the ram right on the same package as the rest of the SoC. Not upgradeable, but also much faster than traditional off-package memory.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Funnily Apple marketed their slower ram as something better in the nineties when memory speed was king. Now when nobody cares about memory speed (I bet most people confound bandwith with speed, forgetting latence too) but we all like to have lots of it because we use lots of programs & apps, Apple is doing the reverse.

Lol.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In this case I was referring to bandwidth and latency, which on-package memory helps with. It does make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but the majority of people would never notice a difference. Also Apple will absolutely give you a ton of memory, you just have to pay for it. They offer 128GB on the MacBook Pro, and it’s unified so the GPU has full access to it, which makes it surprisingly good for running LLMs locally, for example.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Hahaha yeah

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That is better but I don't know if it brings it down to reality.