TIL: FairCode is the software model Redis, ElasticSearch, etc. use (faircode.io)

submitted 3 weeks ago by onlinepersona@programming.dev to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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Fair-code is not a software license. It describes a software model where software:

is generally free to use and can be distributed by anybody
has its source code openly available
can be extended by anybody in public and private communities
is commercially restricted by its authors

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[-] dsemy@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

With a free license I could get paid though (and the maintainer and project could, too), I would just have to do the work myself to make it happen (by starting a company offering enterprise support for businesses using the project, for example).

Don't expect that just because you use a "fair code" license you will be paid - it's likely that companies would just prefer to use a free software project instead (just like today when companies almost never use AGPL licensed code).

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

With a free license I could get paid though (and the maintainer and project could, too), I would just have to do the work myself to make it happen (by starting a company offering enterprise support for businesses using the project, for example).

I get that. I dont know if you ever built a company but I did, multiple. And that is completely different from coding. Someone can deserve to be paid without opening a company imo.

Don't expect that just because you use a "fair code" license you will be paid - it's likely that companies would just prefer to use a free software project instead (just like today when companies almost never use AGPL licensed code).

I dont expect to get paid because I use a certain license. I expect to get paid if someone uses my work to make money with it. Your argument also has two counters:

companies have stated publicly that they would pay if they had to but they cant if its optional, especially corpos.
just because it is free of charge doesnt mean nobody pays the price. Atm its the same as exploiting poor people or children. They have to comply and be happy about it. People who dont have to make money speak from insane privilege.

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

But this is contrary to what is actually happening - when ElasticSearch changed to a "fair code" license, Amazon forked the last version and now maintain OpenSearch.

If you created a new project from scratch which is uniquely useful then sure, companies will probably pay. But what happens if a free competitor pops up? Or if one already exists? I don't see corporations paying for stuff they can get for free.

I dont expect to get paid because I use a certain license.

Then how are you expecting to get paid? It's not like with these licenses you would automatically get paid when someone uses your code. You still need to do non-trivial and non-development related work to form some business relationship with these companies

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

That is one example. I don't know the name of the fallacy but this is one. Besides that, it should be illegal for corporations to use any code without paying or contributing anyway.

We are going in circles. I‘m sure you mean well so I‘m just gonna agree to disagree here and walk away. Good luck and have a nice day.