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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lot of words to describe cherry-picking, but.. yeah. All of that is true.

Not even a vegan. I love meat. But the classic image of the vegan that constantly reminds you of the fact is not at all consistent with my experience with the several in my life..

[–] sparkle@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't like explicitly stating "cherry-picking"/"strawman"/"ad hominem"/other fallacies because people seem to have a visceral reaction to seeing those words, probably are confused as to what they actually are and are assuming you're just throwing out random fallacies to conveniently discredit any arguments with no basis, and will refuse to consider the rest of the stuff they read. I think it's more consumable for the people who really are open to seeing new angles if they have more specific/relatable views to work with, rather than me repeating the same thing they've already heard a hundred times without much elaboration. I can't confirm that though

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

You’re describing the Fallacy Fallacy, being that the implication that the argument is necessarily wrong because a fallacy has been committed. That a fallacy has been committed by the other party should not alone be used as an argument against the point itself.

I.e. you committed a strawman fallacy by stating that all strawmen are made of straw, therefore no strawmen are made of straw