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Star Wars should learn from Andor and stop making Disney Plus shows that are so obsessed with the Jedi (www.yahoo.com)
submitted 6 months ago by AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to c/moviesandtv@lemm.ee
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  • Star Wars Disney Plus shows should move away from Jedi-centric stories and explore other aspects of the Star Wars universe
  • Andor is a successful example of a Star Wars show without Jedi, focusing on the Empire's control and morally gray characters
  • Suggestions for new Star Wars show ideas include Pod Racing, Jawa Storage Wars, and One Man and His Droid, among others
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[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Snoke wasn't set up to serve as villain for three films. He was set up to serve for two films, same as the emperor. You're just salty that your fantheory didn't come true.

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

by the logic you seem to be using, 9 also didn't undo anything 8 did, which is patently absurd

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well it didn't "undo" anything in 8, it just undercut and betrayed its core themes. That doesn't erase 8, it just spits in 8's face.

It's impossible for 8 to have undercut 7's core themes, because 7 doesn't have any.

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if for some reason you believe it's impossible for a film to retcon things, why not just save us both some time by opening with that, rather than having this pointless little back and forth?

it's a really weird time to argue for death of the author when we're talking more or less specifically about directorial intent and we have the interviews from people involved

it's also kind of weird to argue for death of the author while also insisting the emperor was only established in 5, when he's mentioned multiple times in 4

It’s impossible for 8 to have undercut 7’s core themes, because 7 doesn’t have any.

i'm not sure i'm the salty one here

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

8 didn't do any retcons. A retcon would be "actually Snoke isn't the main villain, he's just a clone created by Palpatine." 8 was perfectly happy to play nice with all the facts established in 7, and then have Ben kill Snoke as the first dramatic climax of the movie. 8 gets to have two dramatic climaxes because Rian Johnson is a brilliant filmmaker.

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A retcon would be “actually Snoke isn’t the main villain, he’s just a clone created by Palpatine.”

by the logic you're using, that still wouldn't be a retcon, because it would've been the intention the entire time

i'm also stunned you think anything about "he turns the lightsaber to face his TRUE ENEMY" was well handled