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It bugs me when people say "the thing is is that" (if you listen for it, you'll start hearing it... or maybe that's something that people only do in my area.) ("What the thing is is that..." is fine. But "the thing is is that..." bugs me.)

Also, "just because doesn't mean ." That sentence structure invites one to take "just because " as a noun phrase which my brain really doesn't want to do. Just doesn't seem right. But that sentence structure is very common.

And I'm not saying there's anything objectively wrong with either of these. Language is weird and complex and beautiful. It's just fascinating that some commonly-used linguistic constructions just hit some people wrong sometimes.

Edit: I thought of another one. "As best as I can." "The best I can" is fine, "as well as I can" is good, and "as best I can" is even fine. But "as best as" hurts.

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[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I’m not certain if this is what you were getting at, but these are mine:

An historical - It doesn’t follow the general way of using a or an with consonants and vowels. Nor does it change the meaning if I said a historical (event) instead an historical (event).

Fewer and less. I understand that there is a rule, but the rule is fucking dumb. If I say there are less people or if I say there are fewer people - the end result is the same that there isn’t as much as there was before.

Language is fluid. As long as we understand the meaning of what is being said then who cares?

[–] EarlTurlet@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You may be fewer irritated by this with age

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I understood what you were saying! I am fewer irritated. I would personally use less, because it sounds better in this instance, but totally agree. Not sure how I’d put a number to my irritation though. I am not a robot, so my irritation isn’t exactly a quantifiable scale.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"an historic" works if you're not pronouncing the "h", which is common in some dialects. A vs an isn't about there being an actual vowel, it's about the sound. The same happens with honor and herb (again, depending on pronunciation).

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Yes and in American English the H sound in historic is always used with “a” unless I’m missing a bunch of examples somewhere. The H sound isn’t silent

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, mostly British and some parts of New England.

[–] PatMustard@feddit.uk 2 points 6 months ago

mostly British

No, mostly not British. Only proper cockney geezer really.

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ya "an historic", when the h is clearly pronounced, strikes the wonderful double blow of being both pretentious and wrong as far as I'm concerned. Looking at you, NPR. Go run up an hill, why donchya?