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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 63 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Israel has lost all of my respect in the last year

[–] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They should never have had your respect in the first place....

[–] bear 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When people recognize they were wrong about something, as smugly satisfying as it may be it's not actually helpful to tell them that they should have been correct sooner.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's about being smug. It's about pointing out the important fact that none of this is new except the scale. Divide by 100-1000 and this is just daily life in Palestine.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So Israel’s been shutting down other newspapers before?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No; they just arrest activists and journalists (sometimes but not always have their lackies at the PA do it). Actually shuttering a newspaper is a first AFAIK.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is that the line? Everything before was fine, but this is what caused them to lose your respect?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -5 points 6 months ago

Just give it a break for fuck’s sake jesus christ

[–] peg@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

You respected Israelis a year ago? Please catch up.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And just like with Russia, my soul bleeds for the people who have nothing to do with this...

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At least in Russia the elections were fake

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

The Kung-Fu is strong

[–] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

And who would that be? The exactly 1 IDF soldier that refused to fight? Because all Israelis are IDF soldiers.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

The children that are not yet IDF

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There was an article posted recently about tens of thousands of Israelis marching in Tel Aviv, demanding Bibi resign and an immediate ceasefire.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For the hostages. I mean it's not like I don't want the hostages to return but most of them are definitely not there for the genocide. See: How 88% of Israeli Jews support the war, and 94% think Israel is using too little or just enough fire power.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I would love to see sources. I'm American so sources are limited either through our regular choices or my ignorance of outside sources, not to mention the credibility thereof. I'll take a look at any you care to provide.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So I slightly misremembered the 88% question; it's whether the answerer thinks the number of Gazans killed is justified by the war. General support for the war doesn't show up, but it is high (75% backed a Rafah operation back in March).

Anyway there: https://archive.md/PWZ1h

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you. Sad upvote.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

they want a new government. it's not about the genocide. they generally support the genocide.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well idk really, since the only "not USA approved" news I ever get is here, so I can't really make an informed argument either for or against what you're saying. I just don't know how credible any news source may be, regardless whether slant is immediately obvious or not.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There.

It's NYT (yeah not the best source hence the weird slant) reporting on a poll by Tel Aviv university.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

Oh gees, I remember reading this now. My fault, thank you for bringing it back to memory. That's... not encouraging at all, is it?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago

Ask any Israeli you see and they'll probably tell you...