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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because filling out the data places it in identified fields that you can compile into a single table and sort. You’d have to examine each resume individually.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I mean, HR is being paid. They should be going through the resume and compiling the data themselves.

Instead they require the applicants to do it for free, despite the fact the applicants are probably having to do it dozens of times trying to apply for multiple jobs.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

No reading every resume is an incredibly stupid way to spend time, even for HR workers (they are somewhat educated aka not cheap).

It would make sense for every joblisting to use the same format and you just filling it all out once in said format and connecting to any company / job listing you'ld want to apply to. That's basically what linkedin does to some extent. That, but without the social network bullshit, would be pretty cool.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I think you underestimate how many people apply for jobs and how few people are in HR lol.

You'd make a lot of money if you were able to make a site that harvested one from the other.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I’m not even a fan of HR departments and even I recognize there’s more to their job than sorting through every resume they get every day.

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If your idea to make the job easier (for you) is to make it more than double the work for everyone else, then the company supporting this move deserves to go under.

Why should an applicant do everything twice just so some unknown wage slave they likely won't even meet have an easier day?

This isn't making your job easier, it's just making everyone else do it for you. That's not the same thing. Do your job and stop taking shortcuts at everyone else's expense.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Boo freaking ho. If you’re too lazy to copy and paste some basic information into an online form, I don’t want to hire you anyway. Also discourages people from trying to apply for hundreds or thousands of jobs they are not even qualified for.

The fact is I’m an engineer, not an HR employee. I have a job other than reviewing resumes. And the absolutely will meet me if they meet the requirements. I’ll interview them. If they don’t, they are wasting both our time.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not wanting to do double the work for no tangible benefit is not being lazy.

Being slowed down in applying for multiple positions and being upset about it is not being lazy.

If your company is small enough not to have an HR department then they're clearly small enough to review resumes. Or just stop asking for them if everything you wanna know has to be spelled out in the exact right order for you to comprehend it.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The tangible benefit is getting the job. Sorry, I see this BS, I’m not even bringing you in for the interview.

And yes, we have an HR department. I want to pick the people we work with, not just let people that don’t know what a civil engineer does hire.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is a positive to there being a treshold to applying for a job. It lowers the amount of applicants that will 100% not fit the job description, while making it more possible for HR/management to actually sift through every applicant, increasing the chances you'll get hired if you do put in the effort and if you do meet the requirements. Look at it as an overcomplicated catpcha. They're not just trying to test if you're a human, they're trying to test if you are human & actually are really interested in this job & actually do think you meet the requirements (or equivalent, causing you to put in the effort). It doesn't make much sense for very low skilled low wage jobs, but it does for higher and/or very specifically skilled jobs.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is true, but everyone's problem is specifically the "overcomplicated" part. I can see a better vetting process being needed for higher skill jobs, but really just testing if they're a living breathing person and able to repeat things is kinda pathetic. But if this is now how a hiring department/manager works these days, then it seems like asking for a resume is silly. It would obviously be most "convenient" to just be able to mass apply easily, so I can see the argument for this process. It seems that most of the complaints you typically hear about though (maybe this is just personal bias and anecdotal experience) are related to low skilled applications. Minimum wage/not far above minimum wage jobs this is crazy overkill. It just feels like a huge waste of time.

It becomes more and more worth it the better the job gets.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

yeah the resume is the silly part, it's a remnant from the past. Somehow for flipping burgers they are by doing this checking wether you can neatly summarize you're academic history and your skillset, it's completely pointless. And for high skilled or specific jobs, you're better off asking some in the workfield questions anyhow, instead of the "why don't you decide what you want to tell us"-resume.