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On what ideals were Lemmy created? I am asking it because I am considering supporting Lemmy any way I can but I won't if the ideals of it's creators are anything but upholding free speech. I want to know more about this website, can someone refer me to a book or a video which might encapsulate it?

What I mean by free speech: There is no justification to censor any views unless those views are directly demanding for physical violence against a person or community. Direct physical violence of course doesn’t include offensive speech against any religion (be it Islam, Hinduism or Christianity) or against any ideology or any "protected groups".

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[–] Owell1984@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Hello, No I would not be comfortable with "Posting someone’s legal name, home address, government ID number Calling for a person to be hacked, harassed online or in person, or for someone to steal their bike/car/pet, or kill their pet Child porn, revenge porn (non-consensually posting private nude pictures), edited / deepfake porn Copyrighted movies, music and TV Classified government documents"

And I am not ok with it because yes, I think they are morally reprehensible (although leaking classified govt documents of a genocide might be the opposite) and no I wasn't talking about it at all when I talked about free speech ( The issue as you have pointed out cleverly is much more complicated than what I thought it was) What I was talking about was political speech.

And yes, I think I would be ok with holocaust denial although I think if it done for wrong reasons(knowing it happened and denying it) it would be morally reprehensible as well but in my view it doesn't warrant censoring that speech. I love you that you put hate speech in inverted commas(It depends upon who is defining it and then too varies a lot with other definitions). And yes, Blasphemy, I am pretty sure there isn't a day in my life where I haven't been guilty of that (and I proudly accept that lol). And it's not only Saudi Arabia which bans blasphemy, it's a ton of countries and it's a constantly expanding list with even "free countries" joining in on the "fun" now. revenge porn should be illegal. Child porn warrants stringent punishments.

Again I poorly described my question as you pointed it out and I appreciate you exposing me to the faults in my thinking. **But again, I can tolerate "hate speech", Holocaust denial and blasphemy. And when I was thinking of free speech I was thinking of that. I think they should not be censored as long as they do not involve direct physical threats against an individual or a group. ** I would expect a decentralized forum to be able to circumvent laws such as these which needlessly restrict political speech.