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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Ah Stormfront, I gotta admit, they had me fooled with that one. I thought she was going to turn out to be one of the good guys... Then we see her not merely being negligent, but actively destructive with the justification being that the culprit wasn't white and he was in an area with people who weren't white.

Then the internet gets reminded that Stormfront is Nazi Slang and the name of a White Supremacist Forum that's existed forever, meaning it was telegraphed from the start.

Especially since in the original comic, Stormfront is a guy (and does not have a love affair with Homelander) and was made a woman as a commentary on modern media gender bending or race-lifting characters solely for inclusion purposes without really caring about how it effects the work or if it's even appropriate for the circumstances.

I realize that's a divided take and could get me downvotes, so I'll specify that that's acccording to the guy running the show, this is not my personal take, he came out and said "This is why Stormfront is a woman"

Also the imagery of a guy dressed like the American Flag boning a Nazi Chick really says everything about White Nationalism being the courting of Fascism and Conservative ideology.

Actually that whole season had a lot of "Inclusiveness for the sake of inclusiveness" is bad, and done in a surprisingly progressive way. About how a lot of it is shallow, forced, and is more harmful to the groups in questions because such characters serve only to be mascots instead of actually authentic... with how Maeve is bisexual for example, but Vought forces her to pretend to be a lesbian because "Bisexuals are too confusing!" and was forced to only be with girly girls because "Two women both in a masculine role sends the wrong message, there needs to be a clear indicator of which one's the woman in the relationship!11", that DEFINITELY hit and I'm not even in show business or against inclusiveness in media... especially as a pansexual trans woman who's been told she's not allowed to "Pan" because "That's just bi with a colorful descriptor", not allowed to be bi either because "That's not a real thing", and worst of all.. earlier in my transition I ran into a lot of the "Can't you just be gay? Does it really have to THIS far?" that I'm sure TONS of trans babes have ran into.

God I started this just wanting to talk about Stormfront, but... FUCK, I just really love how the political commentary in The Boys is handled and how shockingly relevant and real it all is. It's such a great pile of evidence to the fact that counter-culture is officially not dead and it makes the show such a compellingly scary thriller..

I get chills anytime Homelander is alone with a character, I geniunely never know if the other person is gonna walk out of their alive, even if they're in the main cast. Just... God I gotta finally watch Season 3, that's been on my to do list forever, and with Homelander coming to Mortal Kombat I finally have an excuse

Edit: One last thing, I just wanted to say that what I REALLY love about The Boys that doesn't get enough credit it, is that although it's based on a comic book series that long concluded.... It's based on a TERRIBLE comic book that never had a wide audience. I like that, instead of ruining something good with a shitty remake or reimagining like Big Media always did, they improved something terrible with a wonderful remake or reimagining (Homelander isn't even really evil in the comic, he's just sorta ignorant to how fragile humans are, and isn't a major threat until Black Noir gaslights him into thinking he's going insane and having psychotic blackouts by using fake videos of Homelander doing evil shit, that.. in the show Homelander actually does for realsies)

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Nice rant

Anyways, you had some good points there about The Boys show, agreed totally. And I hope whatever external annoyances you've had in your PERSONAL life are long gone <3