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[–] RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Matrix/element > signal > xmpp > telegram > RCS > SMS

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I could settle for this but remove telegram as it's not even E2EE by default. It's basically facebook v2.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Guess what? Neither is matrix/element.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Private messages on Matrix have been end-to-end encryption (E2EE) by default since 2020 - https://matrix.org/blog/2020/05/06/cross-signing-and-end-to-end-encryption-by-default-is-here/

For anyone considering Telegram for privacy:

  1. Telegram doesn't default to encryption. All your messages are stored and can be viewed by anyone with enough privileges on Telegram's infrastructure.
  2. Telegram's "secure" 1-1 messages are limited to the point of being useless and not worth using. It's a dark design pattern created to discourage their use, ensuring you give them all your data.
  3. Telegram doesn't support E2EE group messages.

TL;DR - Matrix is more private than Telegram.