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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

hmm, if you're not enjoying it by that point I'd say skip it. If you're really into fallout lore it's still worth watching, but otherwise yea just skip it, or read a synopsis and see if something there catches your interest enough for you to continue

The Fallout TV show is mostly "revolutionary" on the grounds of being a TV adaptation of something that doesn't suck ass and explores the lore of Fallout in a way that's faithful to the games and not complete nonsense, I liked it a lot, but it's art and nobody is somehow obliged to like it lol

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh, the lore was another thing that bothered me. For example ghouls now need a drug to not turn feral, the brotherhood being changed completely from what they were in Fallout 1, 2 and NV to some kind of pseudo religious faction that treats its members as completely disposable and Shady Sands just got bombed randomly so the NCR just doesn't exist now.

To me it felt like the show was incredibly liberal with the lore or was just familiar of the lore in Fallout 4 and none of the rest of it.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think thee medicine is preventative, basically if ya start turning you take. The brotherhood have different culture between chapters, imagine working under Elijah from new vegas. I believe it was Chris Avalon who said he wanted to nuke the NCR if he did another game, so this is at the very least an idea thats been floating around.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

From the interaction between the cowboy and his friend that turns into ass jerky it seemed like every ghoul needs it but even if that's not the case turning feral was always inevitable once you showed signs in previous media. This drug has never been mentioned.

From what I remember the only chapter that has been different was the Fallout 3 one. New Vegas was a return to how the brotherhood previously was. Xenophobic, terrified of anything outside the brotherhood and very insular while treating anyone inside the brotherhood as invaluable. Fallout 4's brotherhood was closer to what they were in the first games until they rolled in and started conquering everything, which was very weird.

Nuking Shady Sands is fine if it works in the lore but the why and how is completely waved away. If the enclave had nukes they would have used them already. It feels very forced, like Bethesda wanted to get rid of previously established canon but they did it so poorly it conflicts with their own canon too.

[–] tryitout@infosec.pub 5 points 6 months ago

If you finish the show they explain why Shady Sands happened.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Its possible that a ghoul going feral is akin to dementia, which means in theory its treatable. Im not against the concept at the very least.

Oh boy ya aint heard of the Midwest Brotherhood? Let me give ya an idea of what they were like, Caesar's Legion but not technophobic would be a solid summary. They broke from the standard doctrine pretty notably, for example ghouls, super mutants, and even intelligent deathclaws were recruited by them. I like the idea of the Brotherhood fracturing ideologically.

And yeah I kinda get it but ill wait till we get more lore on what happened to the NCR before I cast judgment.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought Fallout Tactics wasn't canon or am I wrong?

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Eh its complicated, theres certainly a midwestern chapter but we aint got any specifics. Regardless the influence of Tactics will be present regardless.

[–] person420@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's just a different story being told in the Fallout universe.

Kind of a spoiler but since you ditched the show, I don't think you'll mind, Shady Sands wasn't bombed randomly.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't mind spoilers, what/who is the reason behind nuking Shady Sands?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

spoilerLucy's dad nuked it to keep the experiment of vaults 31, 32, and 33 hidden.

[–] person420@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago

!It was kind of more than that, wasn't it? They didn't like that life was thriving outside of the vault. That they wanted to be the ones to rebuild society!<

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

It's a very large spoiler lol

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

At this point though IS it revolutionary to be a good video game adaptation? We've got Castlevania, Last of Us, Edgerunners, Arcane...

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

yeah but the years of failed attempts are still weighing on us

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

But we also got all the Uwe Boll trash... And Mario. The live action one.