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[–] AClassyGentleman@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean I'd say organizing to overthrow the socioeconomic system causing climate change is the most productive thing you can do but I suppose that does involve taking to people yes.

[–] 404CameranotFound@lemmy.fmhy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s not the system it’s the corporations. The government telling coke and Pepsi to stop using plastic would do more for climate change and the environment in a month than if everyone recycled all plastics forever

[–] CephalonFaye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago

The fact that a few companies can cause that much pollution is still proof that the system is shit in my opinion.

[–] Flygone@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

It's many things coming together.

It's governments not regulating properly, capitalism demanding infinite growth, and consumers mindlessly consuming which creates demand.

There's lots of avenues for change, and we should follow all of them at the same time.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Insert They're_The_Same_Picture.jpg

If you think government decisions are independent of corporations, you've not been paying attention ( US, UK, but pretty much every other state on the planet).

They are both part of the same system designed to keep you working for their profit, and they both need getting rid of.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You have a source for this? Because i want this to be true. Otherwise I can just say something also unfounded and preposterous and make it sound true, such as: it's not the system, it's the semen. The government telling femboys and twinks to stop being cute would do more for climate change and the environment in a month than if everyone wore thigh-high socks forever.

[–] Johanno@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Lets assume you use the "Power of the consumer" to only buy products that are environment friendly.

Then you will soon notice that your power does not exist. If you don't have alternatives then thr only option is not to buy. This might work for luxury but when you buy food and there is only heavily plastic wrapped food then you will buy that one.

Also it will be hard to convince all other humans to consume more expensive alternatives.

Especially if the environment friendly alternative is basically cheaper to produce.

Of course you will need governmental regulations on this shit! The system won't fix itself.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It's not, let's be real. It's global apathy against a bunch of rich assholes that laugh at us when we say pretty much anything in the realm of truth, because muh profits. Short of either a worldwide organizational effort to radically change the course of the world that requires a universal shift in consciousness to ensure our survival and eventual prosperity, or burn it all down and try again yet be destined to repeat the same mistakes because we suck at history, we're kinda fucked.

unfortunately; yes.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That also gets you sudicided figuratively and literally, the assholes are smart