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Much ado about "nothing" - Xe Iaso (==Goodbye NixOS) (xeiaso.net)
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https://discourse.nixos.org/t/much-ado-about-nothing/44236

Not directly related to this blog post but from NixOS discourse forum, a tl;dr from another person about the NixOS drama here :

If you’re looking for a TL;DR of the situation, here it is:

    Nix community had a governance crisis for years. While there has been progress on building explicit teams to govern the project, it continued to fundamentally rely on implicit authority and soft power

    Eelco Dolstra, as one of the biggest holders of this implicit authority and soft power, has continuously abused this authority to push his decisions, and to block decisions that he doesn’t like

    Crucially, he also used his implicit authority to block any progress on solving this governance crisis and establishing systems with explicit authority

    This has led uncountably many people to burn out over the issue, and culminated in writing an open letter to have Eelco resign from all formal positions in the project and take a 6 month break from any involvement in the community

    Eelco wrote a response that largely dismisses the issues brought up, and advertises his company’s community as a substitute for Nix community
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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

DEI requirements is not nepotism, but let's take on the core issue I think you brought up: meritocracy. If you show me two people with the same level of skill and experience, I would say the one that came from the most disadvantaged environment is more qualified because they were able to get to the same level with less support.

But you brought in numbers, let me do the same. L Consider that the minority group you mentioned actually has greater barriers to participate, so those 10 people might actually perform better than 80% of the 1000 of the majority group. Assuming both groups have the same distribution of merit is a fallacy.

[–] Kanedias@lemmy.ml -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If the community itself is discriminating, there's no way out than to fight or wait for an opportunity. We don't see black empowerment in China or a pride parade in Iran.

What I saw in Nix community right now is someone proposed an affirmative action and Jon refused. I don't see discrimination here.

[–] baru@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

pride parade in Iran.

I suggest to look at the history of Iran.

Your argument is a bit weird. People are suggesting for more diversity. Then you seem to say that's bad because they should wait until an opportunity that people fight for more diversity? I'm not following.

[–] Kanedias@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Iran is ruled by IRGC right now. If the community is discriminating to begin with, you have to fight. I'm yet to see how Nix community is discriminating. What I saw is that an active developer got actually banned just for arguing against an affirmative action.

[–] baru@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Are you reading what you wrote? It's full of contradictions.

It seems you think that people should be free from consequences until a certain level is surpassed? That's rather arbitrary.

What I saw is that an active developer got actually banned just for arguing against an affirmative action.

It's often not as simple as how you summarize this. Above is awfully similar to the incorrect claim of "cancel culture". While often that meant that people think someone should be able to do as they please without any consequences. Except for things they dislike, then there should be consequences.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 6 months ago

We don’t see black empowerment in China or a pride parade in Iran.

Sir, this is a Wendy's.