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Somebody has never used opensuse. Zypper is an amazing package manager, one of the best on any distro.
It can handle flatpacks, native packages, and packages from the opensuse build system, keeping everything updated and organized.
Pacman is very basic by comparison, and a lot slower too in my experience.
Wait something can be slower than Zypper? Does it have a bunch of
sleep(1)scattered around?I guess I'm smart enough to install opensuse, but dumb enough that I somehow got slow pacman.
I kid you not, on my hardware zypper is the fastest between ubuntu apt, fedora dnf, and arch pacman. dnf was the second-fastest on my hardware, with apt and pacman being pretty sluggish
I've also used portage which was even slower, but probably not a fair comparison considering how much more complex it is.
'On my machine it works' is not a strong argument, and is highly unlikely, due to the language it was written in.
Pacman is written in C, APT in C++, DNF in Python, and Zypper in C++ as well.
So, no. Pacman 'wins'.
What truly matters is which tool is best suited for your use case.
In the grand scheme of things the difference between C, C++, and Python isn't meaningful when operating over a network (edit: for a single-user system). It's very likely that the difference for thread OP is just caused by weaker connections to specific repos.
We're talking about a package manager, not a game, network server, etc. On a basic level the package manager only needs to download files from a network and install them (OS syscalls for reading/writing files, these are exposed C functions or assembly routines), or delegate to a specific package's build setup (which will also likely be written in a compiled language)
Trust me my friend, a person can make a c program that's much, much slower than one in python. That's a meaningless point.
Sure, c allows for more control and thus the possibility for a quicker program but that's just it, a possibility.
Zipper, though written in c++, can only download one thing at a time. This is why it's so slow
Wait, zypper can handle flatpaks? How?
I would also like to know
Same. Might give it another try.