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Essa Al-Nassr, a member of the Qatari legislative Shura council, spoke on Monday at an Arab League session, received ovation making bigoted accusations against Jews and promising the end of Israel.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Here's the part I'm super confused by considering a Muslim is saying this. Muhammad was supposed to be the last prophet of God. He died all the way back in 632 after complaining of a headache.

So I'm pretty sure any prophet deaths they're blaming on the Jews don't involve any Jews that are alive today and maybe this guy should focus on what the IDF is doing rather than this religious bullshit involving Jews as a whole.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From the article:

The accusation of Jews as ‘killers of prophets’ is a well-known antisemitic trope made in several Islamic texts, which is understood by many, including Al-Nassr himself, as a charge against the entire Jewish people valid for eternity.

This allegation is reminiscent and perhaps reflective of the charge of deicide by which Jews were accused in classical Christian texts.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

valid for eternity

I'm pretty sure the sun is going to engulf the Earth in 5 billion years. There probably won't be any Jews left by then because humans would have evolved into something else by then anyway.

Maybe Allah should be reconsulted.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We’ll be lucky to evolve into anything at the rate we’re creating great filters from scratch.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't think we're at the point where we're going to wipe out the species entirely. I think it's likely that even a global thermonuclear war would result in enough pockets of survivors for the species to continue evolving (with quite serious selection pressure at that point) even if society as a whole lies in unrecoverable ruin.

My searching for minimum viable population size puts it all over the map, although the general consensus seems to be 50 people. But who knows? The California condor has gone from a low of 22 individuals to over 500 in just a handful of generations.

Anyway, I can certainly see 50 humans on some remote part of the planet surviving such a catastrophe.

Civilization? Maybe not. Maybe those 50 humans would evolve into something less intelligent and less able to achieve the level of technology we are able to achieve. There's no reason selection always has to favor intelligence.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I agree. I actually think the only things that could legitimately wipe out humanity are cosmic things we have no control over and it’d have to be so significant that there’s little chance of it actually happening. (Until the sun’s red giant phase, anyway.)

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

My guess is there'll be a very few Indigenous enclaves that will survive, if for no other reason than they fundamentally understand what community is and how to keep it strong.

Our Westernized ideology that "only the strongest win" doesn't work in an end-of-the-world scenario.

[–] intrepid@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Islam includes many Jewish and Christian figures among their numerous prophets. (They believe Mohammed to be the last among them). That includes John the Baptist and Jesus himself (and possibly more). Since Jews had a hand in their death, that could be the reason why they make this claim.

While they're partially correct, this antisemitic trope ignores a lot of context and nuances. For example, Jesus himself was a Jew and so were his initial followers. And there are strong reasons to believe that his crucifixion was a vicious threat towards the Jews of Judea. John's story also has similar nuances. Unfortunately, all those contexts are neglected while creating the propaganda narrative of the evil Jew.