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[–] feoh@lemmy.ml 84 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I get it.

I don't love Snaps either.

However, a thing I try to remember and wish others would as well is simply this: Canonical is a company. Their goal is to make money. They are not out to create the ultimate free as in freedom Linux distribution.

This does (to my mind) not make them evil, and ESPECIALLY doesn't make the folks who work there evil. It makes them participants in the great horrible game that is Capitalism, and expecting anything else from them is going to lead to heartache, as you've seen.

If you want a Linux distro that shares your preferences and won't try to jam snaps down your throat, you might consider giving Debian a whirl as many others have.

Continuing to ride the Ubuntu train and raging against the dying of the light when it continues chugging in the direction it's been headed for YEARS seems ... futile :)

[–] Tundra@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Agreed.

For any (k)ubuntu refugees, do as I did and switch to Debian!

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Or as I did and switch to fedora! (Debian's also a really good option)

[–] feoh@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Nice to see that KDE is so well supported! I'd been running Manjaro KDE the last time I had Linux installed on my desktop but I may give Debian a try this time around.

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How do snaps make money for Canonical?

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's no way to install a snap except through Canonical's snap store (or snap store proxy, which gets them from Canonical's snap store).
They're charging for kernel security live patches. They charge for LTS. If they get enough buy-in re: snaps, they're going to do the only thing a for-profit company can do.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Red Hat and SUSE also charge for extended support, it's literally the only fucking way to make money off of a distro

Canonical still offers 5 years standard at the enormous cost of 0.0$

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you under the impression that they write all the patches?

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

No, but they actually do write some patches and they also do all the menial work, testing and verification to keep a piece of software serviceable for 10 years

If you think it's easy, go and attempt it yourself. The greatest cure for people talking shit about needed effort, according to my experience....

[–] feoh@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

I'm not gonna speak for Canonical but snaps enable commercial vendors to more readily ship their apps on the Ubuntu platform.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Money is literally the very incarnation of evil via the Talisman it bears.

If they trying to make money then they are, not a fiber of otherwise, Evil.

You're decision to not recognize the blatant & obvious Talisman does not make you correct. It's not your choice. It's the choice of that occult chant and signature.

[–] feoh@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Humans are inherently evil. There is but a thin veneer we call "civilization" that stops of from beating each other to death with whatever object can be brought to hand.

And what does any of this have to do with the price of tea in China? :)

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago

I dunno, what does it have to do with the price of tea in China?