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At least in the United States, smoking is something fewer and fewer people take up these days. This obviously wasn't the case back in the 50's through the 80's, where cigarettes were commonly smoked out in public.

So whenever I see a period movie or show, filmed in the 2020's but taking place in the 60's, there's frequent scenes where characters are smoking cigarettes in a bar or stress-smoking to the filter after a stressful conversation. And I think to myself, "are these actors all smokers? In this day and age? Or is that an unlit prop ciggy with VFX smoke done in post?"

Are fake cigarettes common in film production now, or are these still typically the real deal?

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[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just in case someone important reads this:

I really wish movie makers would drop the ‘smoking is {cool,badass,…whatever} trope.’ I’m happy whenever I find that a whole cast never touches a cigarett on camera (think, How I Met Your Mother or The Big Bang Theory)

[–] YMS@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How I Met Your Mother literally had an episode only about smoking, revealing that everybody in the main group has smoked at one point, and they all do in that episode.

Besides that, isn't the "smoking is cool" phase in movies a thing of the past already? Most movies don't show anyone smoking, and if, I would say it's most often not the hero, but often some shady guys.

[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IIRC they weren't smoking, they were "eating sandwiches"

[–] YMS@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are eating sandwiches when they are smoking weed. They are smoking actual cigarettes when they are smoking cigarettes. Ted's kids are shocked when they learn this, I don't remember them reacting to the sandwich stories.

[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah I only remember the weed episode

[–] YMS@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to https://how-i-met-your-mother.fandom.com/wiki/Eating_a_Sandwich they are eating sandwiches in 14 episodes (mostly in flashbacks, though).

[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's been a while since I watched that series.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I know that episode. And the message, in red bold face across the screen for the entire episode is “Don’t smoke.” That’s different from the on-screen smoking I’m talking about.

Characters can be shady without smoking. Just because they’re not the hero, the appeal of ‘being shady’ and the incentive to look to them as a role model doesn’t vanish.

[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience it usually means "this is the bad guy" nowadays, rather than "this guy is cool"

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Characters can be ‘the bad guy’ without smoking. Associating ‘being the bad guy’ with smoking is even worse, IMHO than a smoking hero.

[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I agree people can be a bad guy without smoking