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Good lord why is this so hard.
Y’all want closer or further from target? Make your choice.
I would like Biden to move to the yellow line please. I’m voting for him anyways but yeah
The more people vote for progressives, the more progressive their policies will become.
Awww shucks, most of the progressives got rat fucked by the party!
Guess we get more "centrism" in a desperate appeal to people who actually don't mind fascism that much, now that they think about it
That's just the nature of democracy mate.
With two parties they will always align themselves just to the left and right of whatever "center" happens to be.
you're not talking about democracy, you're talking about the specific system used in the US
most countries in europe do not have a 2-party system, here in sweden we have one party (the social democrats) with 33% of votes and then like 7 other parties with decreasing numbers of votes, that have to come together with a majority of the votes to form a government.
Yes, but all 8 parties will strategically position themselves around the overton window to gather as many votes as possible.
If you have 2 parties as in the US then obviously it's one party either side.
I'm Australian BTW. 3 major parties, many small ones.
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Yes, same here on both points.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/19/house-passes-biggest-climate-investment-in-us-history-.html
I’m aware, and I’ve spoken up to defend Biden on this. In general I’ve been positively surprised by Biden’s voting record. I think a lot of people may not have went into the Biden presidency with the expectations I did. I expected fucking nothing. I voted for “not a fascist” in 2020. I was pissed he won the primaries, especially after how clear it was that he was the “fine whatever” candidate with a cop running mate.
But also as a country we’re headed in the right direction on climate but we need to increase our acceleration. Biden keeps doing that and I’m glad, and I know the house is a deadlocked mess and the legislature is as important as the president this year. But, we need to decarbonize and we need to do it 20 years ago, or now at the latest. None of this natural gas bullshit. It’s gonna suck. Of fucking course it’s going to suck. We put it off for 50 years.
Yes, that is the blue line. We want the yellow one, thanks.
With our current voting system, this is all we can do. Vote Democrat and hope for gradual change. Sadly, our planet is more than "gradually" fucked.
Until the voting system changes (hah), we can push the Democrats to do better, and they'll surely listen... I'm voting Biden, but I'm sure as hell bitter about the situation.
Agreed on all points.
My target is the dissolving of national borders, the elimination of nation-states, the breakdown of the petro-dollar, and collective ownership of all resources.
Who gets me closer to that?
Does adding carbon emissions help you in this or any endeavor?
Yes, yes, harm reduction. Very good. Here is a cookie: 🍪
I've been doing that since ska was cool. It would be fun to do something different maybe?
Idk. Increasing harm isn’t really my thing.
Yeah. Eliminating the causes of harm is totally off the table. No use thinking outside a dichotomy.
No one but the Dem or Rep nominee will win.
If you believe differently I would very much like to bet you money.
yes that is the problem
That’s first past the post voting. That’s how it is right now.
Take a look at places changing to ranked choice. Hint: they’re not red.
There's waaaay more things wrong with this system than FPTP. It'll take a thousand years to get something workable.
Ok. In the meantime, I’ll vote for the less bad guy.
And now we’re back to the top of this comment thread.
The fact that I don't like voting for Biden doesn't mean I'm not going to vote for him.