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What do we think about the new DDG AI Chat feature? (duckduckgo.com)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by reallyzen@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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A "natural language query" search engine is what I need sometimes.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You realize "Claude" literally just using an API for ChatGPT 3.5 and using Bing is better because it's leveraging GPT version 4? GPT-4 is multi modal and significantly faster. And also DDG AI is just as intrusive as Bing AI in the shit that it is tracking from you.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Can you please provide a source for that claim?

Because I can find multiple sources that state they use separate LLMs but not one that states Claude uses Chat-GPT's LLM:

Claude's 195K context exceeds ChatGPT's 4K context in GPT-3.5.

Claude 3 was trained with data up to August 2023. In contrast, ChatGPT was trained on data leading up to January 2022.

Source: ”4 things Claude AI can do that ChatGPT can't”, ZDnet, 2024-04-20

ChatGPT [and] Claude ... all use different language models (LLMs) to process and respond to prompts ...

ChatGPT uses GPT-3.5 and GPT-4. If you're using the free version of ChatGPT, you'll be interacting with GPT-3.5. But if you're using ChatGPT Plus, OpenAI's paid chatbot version, you'll be interacting with GPT-4.

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Claude, created by Anthropic, uses its most recent LLM version, Claude 2.1.

Source: "ChatGPT vs. Perplexity vs. Claude: AI Chatbot Tools Compared", How-To Geek, 2023-12-11

Also, Claude has a number of privacy & ethical restrictions baked into its protocols:

https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/7996885-how-do-you-use-personal-data-in-model-training

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It literally says it when you first click on the fucking link OP provided:

DuckDuckGo AI Chat is a private AI-powered chat service that currently supports OpenAI’s GPT-3.5

Corollary:

Some key differences that should convince you Claude is useless and was only added by DDG to try to differentiate themselves but ended up being a weak attempt using other companies and sacrificing privacy:

Company: Claude is developed by Anthropic, while ChatGPT is developed by OpenAI.
AI Model: Claude has three versions: Claude 3 Haiku, Claude 3 Sonnet, and Claude 3 Opus. ChatGPT has different versions like GPT-3.5, GPT-4, and GPT-4 Turbo.
Context Window: Claude can process up to 200,000 tokens (and up to 1,000,000 tokens for certain use cases), while ChatGPT can process up to 32,000 tokens.
Internet Access: ChatGPT has internet access, while Claude does not.
Image Generation: ChatGPT can generate images (DALL·E), while Claude cannot.
Supported Languages: Claude officially supports English, Japanese, Spanish, and French, but in testing, it supported even less common languages. ChatGPT supports 95+ languages.
API Pricing: Claude offers cheaper API access compared to ChatGPT.
Capabilities: ChatGPT is more versatile with features like image generation and internet access. Claude, on the other hand, offers a much larger context window, meaning it can process more data at once.

Source:

(1) Claude vs. ChatGPT: What's the difference? [2024] - Zapier. https://zapier.com/blog/claude-vs-chatgpt/.

(2) Claude AI vs ChatGPT: Which is Better? | Lifehacker. https://lifehacker.com/tech/claude-ai-versus-chatgpt-which-is-better.

(3) Claude vs ChatGPT: Which is Better in 2024? | EM360Tech. https://em360tech.com/tech-article/claude-vs-chatgpt.

(4) What Is the Difference Between Claude 2 and ChatGPT? [2023]. https://aboutechs.com/what-is-the-difference-between-claude-2-and-chatgpt/.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Except DuckDuckGo AI Chat ≠ Claude

Claude = Anthropic's AI

ChatGPT = OpenAI's AI

DuckDuckGo AI Chat = a chat framework that a) allows you to choose between either ChatGPT or Claude, and b) acts as an intermediary between you and the one you choose ensuring that the one you choose does not remember conversations as soon as you refresh your browser tab, thus ensuring relative privacy as well as making it so your conversations through DDG are not used to educate the AI you chose.

As for your list of points, your original point was that Claude is just another chatbot using the ChatGPT LLM, not that one is better than the other. I assume that you stating they're different now means you agree with my original point? Cool, thread closed, I guess.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for clarifying that I am really dumb. Also thanks for the informative summary, their tool sounds really nice from a privacy standpoint

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're cool. Sorry if I came across as douchy.

That being said, you're not dumb; you just didn't know.

And yeah it's not perfect, not by a LONG shot, but I like it. I wouldn't have ever given it a try if it wasn't for DDG providing such an interface, and for free no less. (I'm broke. Lol.)