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[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

No argument that she's from the wealth & privilege class

But you don't become the biggest pop star ever with a completely healthy upbringing, either, right?

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

...why not? Pop isn't exactly a reaction like metal, punk or hyperpop, it's just... The default genre of music she could have made?

What unhealthy part of any upbringing would compel someone to make pop?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Anyone that driven was probably abused mentally to some degree at the very least... I know you think you're being "funny" because it's just "pop music". Like being pop means it isn't a horrible cut throat industry that regularly chews up and destroys child stars ...

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 35 points 7 months ago

You know what else regularly grinds up and destroys children?

Poverty.

Which occurs to far more millions of people than whatever tf this princess went through

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, she had the fucken cash to sit around and get the fucken recording equipment and instruments for country songs. That shit ain't cheap, and she started before the home recording revolution. So you know Papa Swift paid for some studio time. Its not abuse at all, its wealth and privilege to pursue what you want.

[–] beeham@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’re not wrong on all your points but also jesus christ if you think DIY started after T Swift.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, but in the 2010s it became much cheaper to record at home than it ever was and we saw countless artists come from that.

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I had prosumer home recording equipment back around the turn of the century, and it wasn't anything new.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How expensive was it though? Probably more than the cost of a cheap laptop and a USB mic.

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

We had cheap laptops and USB microphones back then. I had a set up with digital audio converter, a couple mics going to laptop set up was about $200-$250 w/out laptop and I had a separate boss br-532 8 track recorder I picked up used for like $300. I'm sure if I was more frugal I could've gone a lot cheaper.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

From everything ive heard, it seems her parents were super supportive and understanding, from driving her hours away so she could get lessons/coaching, to moving across the country so she could start her career.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 months ago

Abused mentally could mean not voted home coming queen. Tempest in a teapot can still be a tempest to someone fixated on the teapot.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 24 points 7 months ago

But you don't become the biggest pop star ever with a completely healthy upbringing, either, right?

Sure you could. Why not?

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But you don't become the biggest pop star ever with a completely healthy upbringing, either, right?

Paul McCartney had, by all accounts, an idyllic childhood

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

So that's where the Beatles dark sound comes from...

[–] III@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Keep it down, you might interrupt the circle jerk. Don't worry, they will tire soon.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What is the point in ever defending a billionaire for any reason?

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Other than the jet thing, does she really have a scandal?

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-33678225

She's a lawful evil devil who seems to be very mean and very manipulative

Aka, a billionaire

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So 1 guy.

I’m sorry, I’m gonna need more than that.

Maybe she’s horrible, maybe she wouldn’t sleep with him.

I don’t know, but I’m sure she’s not perfect, and we’ve all been an asshole to someone who didn’t deserve it on a bad day.

Now repeated behavior is a completely different thing

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's not what he's alleging. He's implying that she has a network and team that will destroy people who publicly oppose her

[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

No kidding!

I thought people were exaggerating about her fans, goddamn lol

[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

I just don't think anyone has that kind of drive their whole life without deepseated need of some kind to propel them