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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 149 points 6 months ago (17 children)

Anyone that says Biden isn't doing anything is blind.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 86 points 6 months ago

Or most likely not reading truthful news.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Tbf, society used to have "news", and many people are slow to realize that while the media still call themselves by that name, they no longer live up to that truth. i.e., not everyone who is blind is purposefully ignoring the truth - there is a whole spectrum of people in the middle.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As the New York Times' coverage of the Israeli Genocide has made obvious to even the blindest most tribalist of people, the "liberal" media was and is just as hard spouting propaganda as the far-right one.

Personally I think that the decay from Journalism into "Opinion Forming" in the traditional more liberal Press long predates the Fox-News Age and their destruction of the trust in the Traditional Press for temporary political gains of "their side" created the prime conditions for the rise of the made-up-outrage "Press" that so well fits the modus operandi of far-right populism and hence fed and was fed by made-up-outrage far-right populist politicians like Trump.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 6 months ago (12 children)

I mean... not equally though, unless you mean in the sense that both are incorrect. Liberal media in particular always tried to at least make their BS sound like it wasn't nonsense, as opposed to e.g. MTG's Jewish Space Laser rants. I appreciate the effort that goes into making a chart when I am lied to, rather than just some short pithy saying - it's the effort that wins my heart! :-P (/s btw)

I have heard it said that the only true way to spot a counterfeit message is to know the real thing backwards and forwards so well that nobody can pull a fast one on you when they try to sell you short (or long). e.g. we know that 1+1=2, but if Democrats tell us it is =11 whereas old-school Republicans say that it is =-100000000000000000, newer ones say that it is the sqrt of stfu, and the most modern ones of all have already shot your mom and fucked your dog, and hold everything else you hold dear hostage until you tell them that you LIKED it... then who is to blame the most if you did not know the answer in the first place?

The answer, I believe, is that MOST of the blame goes to the people who did the WORST attrocity(-ies), but at least part of it falls onto us, for letting it happen.

Therefore I do not blame older liberal media, or at least not nearly so much as I do what followed that got significantly worse. Though yeah, I do put some of the blame onto it as well, ofc.

More important is what we do in response to it all?

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[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I mean, public radio and tv exists.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now we have hate boner political infotainment. It's disgusting.

We need a free press, but we need to figure out how to deal with those that take advantage of their status... In this case, all of them...

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 6 months ago

Even my absolute favorites of all time - e.g. Jon Stewart - still does it. It is the nature of the game, which we hate rather than the playa. :-(

Though in his case, some of it he does b/c it is necessary, a lot is rather tongue-in-cheek, and anyway he seems to be aware and definitely tries to use his power as responsibly as he can. Also, it may be hate-boning to e.g. watch a politician say something like "never in my entire life have I held this position", then 2s later watch a different video showing that same politician a few years before where they espouse precisely that position that they later claimed that they never had - like yeah, it produces a "reaction" in us, but like... shouldn't it, to watch such a blatant and bold-faced lie?

The difference, imho, is that he doesn't do such things purely for the sake of that reaction, and instead uses that reaction as the vehicle to convey his point, which is that that politician is a bad person, and should be replaced by someone who may perhaps be less bad. And, hate-engendering as it may be, it is also The Truth so... there's that. Which stands in stark contrast to e.g. Alex Jones who also tries to engender hate, but not using Truth, and instead rather for the sake of personal profits.:-(

[–] fiend_unpleasant@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He sure is sucking zionist dick really hard. Some would say too hard.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hey guys I found this book written by god that says trump tower is mine. Think the us government will back me?

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How much capital do you have?

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Listen, give me the biggest loan you can manage. I'm good for it.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I would trust you with my life

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Oops too big to fail now.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But... he's old! And not perfect!!! So obviously, we should stay home and see how much better our lives will be under Trump when it's his last (legal) term and literally what keeps him out of prison... Duh.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Look, I know the opposition is worse in quite literally every conceivable sense, but BOTH SIDES! Ha, take that, LIBS!

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"saving democracy" tho; lol. if he wanted to do that, why the fuck is he running again?

edit: that feels more like 'dangling democracy over a trumpian abyss to jack off his own geriatric ego'.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (13 children)

He's certainly not destroying it.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He's certainly not destroying it

Oh, yes, the only two options. Death or life support. No way to improve it.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

How could someone improve democracy and who would it be?

Edit: weird that I would be down voted for asking who and how to improve democracy.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (19 children)

Okay, while I think the other person's complaints are unreasonable and dishonest, I really need to answer this sincerely, because it's genuinely important that people understand.

Ways that American democracy can be improved:

  1. Eliminating lobbyists

  2. Capping how much money can be spent on political campaigns

  3. Capping individual donation sizes

  4. Capping donation frequency

  5. Implementing a cardinal or ordinal voting system (such as approval or single transferable vote)

  6. Making voting more accessible

  7. Removing the possibility of gerrymandering

  8. Outlawing political parties

  9. Making voting mandatory

  10. Several other things who's scope mean they probably don't count (like better education, which would help citizens perform democracy better, but also clearly falls outside the scope of the list) or that I am otherwise forgetting.

Edit:formatting.

Edit2: I never intended to answer "who" because that question doesn't have a single answer; the president can't do those things, and it's silly to expect them to.

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[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

About as blind as Biden is to Palestine.

[–] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago

They're liars, they know full well what he's accomplished, but they refuse to acknowledge it because their peers would ostracize them

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