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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Rammstein isn't metal it's NDH. The Genre does have metal influence but you could just as well call it Industrial Punk (in particular in regards to Rammstein). There's plenty of groove metal in there if you know what to listen for but this doesn't sound anywhere close to Pantera.

And if Rammstein being a bunch of Punks with way too much artistic concept wasn't enough you have to literally ignore their Discography to think they're right-wing.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know rammstein isn’t metal. Lots of people consider them metal though. And I didn’t say they were right wing, but the band did get in a lot of trouble in the last few years over sexually abusing people. A lot of people. That’s why I asked.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And I didn’t say they were right wing, but the band did get in a lot of trouble in the last few years over sexually abusing people

It was alleged that. What's true is that there were plenty of 0-row aftershow parties with plenty of drugs and sex involving Till. Which is problematic in itself but as it seems (if we take the state attorney's conclusions as gospel truth) nothing non-consentual went on. What's left is allegations by two women who, as far as I'm aware, never themselves filed criminal complaints (which would expose them to possible false accusation charges).

What I took away from the whole thing is that Till is a creepy yet decent hedonist and it's good that he's got pushback over his behaviour, but it's also not a thing he should be crucified for. He's not 20-something any more, he should understand iffy consent mechanics when it comes to 20-something groupies better at his age.