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[–] Norgur@fedia.io 87 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Yep, I cannot comprehend how there is so much space allocated to so few people and they still drown in one fucking housing crisis after another.

If you are going to gobble up that much space for yourselves on this planet that we all share, stop fucking around and put it to good use!

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 66 points 8 months ago

Best I can do is another McMansion.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The housing crisis has zero to do with available space, except that in the hubs of industry, like silicon valley, there are more people wanting to live there than there's space. That's not true across the country.

But no one is going to build a house in the middle of nowhere to help with housing because (a) hardly anyone wants to live in the middle of nowhere, away from all the jobs, and (b) the people building housing are motivated to get as much money as they can.

We as a society could 100% solve the housing crisis, but it involves socialism, not capitalism, which a lot of Americans still have a problem with. The solution isn't constrained by space, which the US has tons of.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

It wouldn't even be that much socialism. Just a smidgen of housing regulations and zoning. Limit corporate ownership and rental profiteering, like any responsible capitalist democracy should with any industry.

The problem is that an entire generation of homeowners wanted to ride the wave of residential deregulation like a fly on a windshield. Wheeee look at our property values skyrocket! We can retire on the capital gains alone! Fuck the next generation, what did they ever do for us?

[–] dharmacurious 5 points 8 months ago

I'm all for the socialism, but could we also get the homestead act back? Free land and a grant to build a house if we're willing to go rural as fuck and grow our own food. Maybe combine with eco friendly stuff. Have to build a cob house, must use ecologically safe farming techniques.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People want to live next to people, and in specific areas. You can buy a nice house in bumfuck nowhere for cheap, or you can get an apartment in Austin for much more.

[–] dharmacurious 1 points 8 months ago

As a transplant Bumfuckian for well over a decade now, no you can't. It's only cheap if you're bringing your income or savings account from a non-bumfuck region.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Manifest fucking destiny/s

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What makes you think lack of space is the issue??

[–] Norgur@fedia.io 2 points 8 months ago

Nothing. I didn't say it was, did I? I just said that the US has an awful lot of space on this planet that is home to all of us and still can't manage to house people.

Come to think of it, I said everything besides space was the issue, didn't I?

[–] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting that more people should live in Texas? I don’t think this is the humanitarian viewpoint that you seem to think it is lol.

[–] Norgur@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying that people should live in geographic place that is Texas, not necessarily in the political construct that is Texas. Because I wouldn't want to live in the latter either.

[–] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don’t even know if I agree with that, it’s mostly desert or at the very least incredibly arid. It’ll end up being even worse than Southern California or Nevada, massive amounts of people pulling water from an aquifer too small to sustain them.

People need to live in areas that have the resources to support them.