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Hi, I am a guy in early thirties with a wife and two kids and whenever I go on youtube it always suggests conservative things like guys dunking on women, ben shapiro reacting to some bullshit, joe rogan, all the works. I almost never allow it to go to that type of video and when I do it is either by accident or by curiosity. My interest are gaming, standup comedy, memes, react videos, metalurgy, machining, blacksmithing, with occasional songs and videos about funny bullshit and I am not from america and I consider myself pretty liberal if I had to put it into terms used in america. But european liberal, so by american standards a socialist. Why does it recommend this shit to me, is this some kind of vector for radicalization of guys in my category? Do you have similar experience?

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[โ€“] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conseratives and fascists are the same group, so I'll refer to them as fascists.

You are talking about one of the core criticisms of corporate secret algorithms to determine what to influence you with. Fascism is forced to creep into everyones world view when you use standard social media, and the average person wouldn't have the slightest idea. Certain key things will be more related to fascist content, like philosophy, psychology, guns, comedy. If you think about what fascists enjoy, or what they need to slander then it makes what I said make more sense.

Jordan Peterson does a lot of vids around psych/philosophy to redirect curious people to false answers that are close to true but more agreeable for fascists. An example of a psychological cooption is "mass psychosis" being coopted into "mass formation psychosis" by fascists. Mass psychosis explains too many true things, where mass formation psychosis redirects people towards a more palletable direction for them.

This is why I want to be nowhere near corporate media if possible. If you delete your cookies(or private browse for the same effect) then youtube will promote the most adjacent things to what you watch like old youtube used to do, although it'll still promote fascism when directly adjacent. With cookies though they have an excuse to have questionable content linger statistically too often.

[โ€“] HappyHam@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You actually believe that every single conservative is a fascist? Jesus Christ political literacy is dead

[โ€“] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe you need to go have a read about fascism, then tell me, are the points presented becoming more or less similar to current conservative views?

[โ€“] HappyHam@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I don't deny that a lot of Republicans are becoming fascists, but that is far from "all conservatives are fascists".

[โ€“] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Nooo, i finished my comment to you and then upvoted you while proof reading >_> turns out that kills the comment.. ugh..

If i could rewrite my first comment to just talk about conservatives then i would have. I'd rather focus on active threats of evil corp shenanigans.

I agree that republicans are becoming fascists in the overt sense. My views are based more on that they are unknowingly fascist by actions, not awareness. Conservative policy in a nutshell is really just "We good, You bad" and power plays without any rational explanation. Can you really name any decent policies conservatives have? All i hear is hate, scapegoating, intensification of totalitarian power structures, increasing control for corporations, war and guns. Those things were key in Nazi Germany too.

[โ€“] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I just use the term capitalism since there is no difference in the goals of either.

Not necessarily in all countries, but in the USA I'd say all Republicans are fascist, or at least complicit in the spread of fascism. The conservative wing of the Dems, nah.