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But of course we all know that the big manufacturers don't do this not because they can't but because they don't want to. Planned obsolescence is still very much the name of the game, despite all the bullshit they spout about sustainability.

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[–] le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Well Say whatever about apple but my grandma is running an iPhone 5 for years, replaced the battery from a third party repair shop last year and it keep working absolutely perfectly. There was absolutely no issue finding someone to replace it and it costs 40€.

But yeah, if we had bought her a shity android third grade phone, support would be long gone and the thing barely working. Would have bought one or two other phone in the meantime.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Apple go out of their way to make it difficult for 3rd parties repair shops to get parts and same goes for "official" repair partners who are also gimped in what they're allowed to repair.

I imagine this isn't want you meant when you said say whatever you will about Apple.

[–] le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's not so much that I'm praising apple but that I'm criticizing android manufacturers. You can make it as much repairable as you want, if you stop updating after 2 year it's as good as dead.

I know we could have bought her a pixel, but they got their own issue. And not so much repairable.

Samsung back in these time, it was 2 year update too and Im not sure even today they keep updating their low end phone for much longer than that. Wouldn't buy a s23 for a grandma that only makes call and some internet search. 😀

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Other than a lack of security updates, what does it matter if the OS isn't updated such that it is unusable?

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Apple is on it's best way to kill all 3rd party repair shops. Luis Rossman has many videos about it. Basically you don't get any schematics, Apple makes it illegal for you to buy replacement parts and they make it more difficult to repair anything.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Well, at least for batteries we seem to be going in a good direction

[–] Specal@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

That's fine for the iPhone 5 before they got as greedy as they are in modern times. Latest generation iPhones have parts locked to the motherboard of the phone, making it alot harder for 3rd party technicians to make repairs without bricking the phone. I forget the name of the YouTuber I think it's Louis Hoffman, he goes into alot more detail on this.

But you are right in a sense, if you never break your phone, it'll last until the battery does. If you get it repaired at a 3rd party shop that's not apple certified (a really expensive certification to get, not just for upfront cash but they restrict what you're allowed to work on to keep the certification) you risk walking away with a very expensive paper weight