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I thought I'll make this thread for all of you out there who have questions but are afraid to ask them. This is your chance!

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what planet you are on but Debian is more stable and secure than anything I have ever tested. Maybe Debian gets a bad rap because of Ubuntu.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. Stable, yes. But stable as in unchanging (including bug-for-bug compatibility), which imo is not what most users want. It is what server admins want though. Most newbie desktop users don't realize this about debian based systems, and is one of the sources of trouble they experience.

Debian tries to be secure by back porting security fixes, but they just cannot feasibly do this for all software, and last I checked, there were unaddressed vulnerabilities in debian's version of software that they had not yet backported (and they had been known for a while). I'm happy to look up the source for you if you're interested.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Show me a source. I run Debian everywhere including production critical systems. I've never had an issue

Maybe start here: https://www.debian.org/security/

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Here's an example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/pgv3wc/debian_chromium_package_has_many_security_issues/

Being able to run a distribution on multiple machines does not mean it is free of vulnerabilities. You'd only know if you're checking CVEs for each package you use.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A reddit post from 3 years ago is not valid evidence

[–] jack@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

As if Debian has changed fundamentally since then...

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Are you able to demonstrate with supporting evidence?

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Why is that? It shows proof of the exact thing I said. If you don't like that it's on Reddit, I can copy paste it here.

If you want more examples, I'm happy to provide them. Here is another example:

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/linux

[–] wolf@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Debian is for sure not more secure than most other distributions/operating systems. (Might be true for what you tested).

Not even mentioning the famous Debian weak SSH key fuck up (ups), Debian is notoriously understaffed to take care of back ports of security patches for everything which is not the kernel/web server/Python etc. (and even there I would not be too sure) and don't get me started on starting services/opening ports on an apt install etc.