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Obama really did open the floodgates on all the racists. I guess I was really naive, but I had no idea there were so many racist everywhere.
As a white guy with a beard in a blue collar industry, I'm shocked at what strangers will just assume I'm cool with hearing out of their mouths. They truly have no shame anymore. It's fucking wild.
Add tattoos. Yea. People are awful. "I like Alex Jones". I have never wanted to punch a coworker so much in my life.
The way I respond is always 'neutral' but calling them what they are. So for Alex Jones I might say 'oh the dude who lied about dead kids?' the key is to sound neutral and then just disengage if they try to start a conversation about it. 'yea I don't care dude'.
'tate? The rapist and woman beater? OK.' just disengage on that topic. Make it see like you're stating a fact, because you are and there's no room for them to argue or engage.
For real. It's like they completely don't get that it sounds so bad when you just stick to the facts.
Yeah: “Isn’t he the guy who [insert atrocious fact or quote from whichever asshole here]” either gets them confused, usually resulting in a “but Hunter’s laptop” response, no matter the topic. Or they quiet down and move on in my experience.
I usually do the same thing in relation to donnie with magats that start up and don't know me - I don't engage on any of their latest insider ragebait too-online/too much Faux Cinematic Universe, and usually feign general uninterest in politics, but ask questions like - "Isn't Trump the guy that was convicted of rape?"
If I really want to go there and there are not children around, I'll ask if Trump isn't the guy that wants to fuck his own daughter? I do the same "many people are saying" tactic that donnie himself does and it usually shuts them right the hell up because if they want to start up with nonsense about Biden, I'll just feign ignorance about any of their latest poutrage porn that they consume all day and ask why they don't know that donnie wants to bang his own daughter.
For the magats that are terminally online/in their own little magat bubble, someone saying this in such stark terms really tends to shock them for a few minutes. They might be used to trying to debate "nice" liberals/leftists on their terms, or with their framing, or hoping they can flip it into a conversation about something else....
My colleagues and I are all mechanical or industrial engineers. We travel around the country to project sites. I'll be on a job site and hear all the trades guys saying the most vile shit. And be completely shocked I tell them to knock it off or I'll tell the general contractor to get someone else out.
The part that pisses me off the most though is how often they're union members.
We never had a reckoning for slavery, for segregation, redlining, employment discrimination. Or any of the thousands of other racist touchstones of our country. In fact, far too many Americans still blame the victims and their descendants for the struggles they still experience. Too many Americans blame their own struggles on the victims as well. Obama opened no floodgates. These people were always wildly racist. They'd just not had such an opportunity to so vocally and visually demonstrate it.
My ignorance of just how much it permeated my childhood and young adult years was terrifying. Even colloquial phrases and sayings picked up in my youth were coded with racism. And with how little we promote understanding and learning. It's easy to see how so many getting called out for it rather than stopping to learn. Just push back and double down self-righteously. America is a wildly racist country, and always has been.
It's to the point where some of them are now trying to find ways to make it worse to call someone racist than being a racist.
My favorite is when racists say "We've had a black president so we can't be a nation of racists."
Like....somehow having a black president now makes it okay for all of the shit conservatives want to do.
"Thanks Obama"
They did it on CNN. I remember some Republican prick saying, "you know why we're not racist? Obama."
It just so happened that the racists got outvoted. Their party really seized upon being racists though.
Oh, so did that repub vote for Obama, then? I realize that was on tv, but when I hear that IRL, I'll ask if they voted for Obama. If they did, could they explain why the hell we had the birtherism shit? And why donnie, who is king of the birthers, is the choice of the cons and how did he get into office?
This all goes back to those neighborhood apps where everyone was openly racist. All around the time of BLM. Download anyone of them today to find out how racist your neighbors are.
Which ones?
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbymk/nextdoor-knows-its-users-are-racist
The US failed to hang traitors in the 1860s and now here we are.
And again with the business plot.