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The rise of financial sovereignty — and why some Australians believe they don't have to pay tax - ABC News (www.abc.net.au)

submitted 5 months ago by hanrahan to c/australia@aussie.zone

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The sovereign citizen movement rejects the legitimacy of the government. Its fast-growing popularity has had authorities scrambling to get a handle on how far its tentacles have reached.

Unfortunately, Mr Oxby was persuaded by this theory during the seminar, which I infer from his evidence, was presented in a persuasive and charismatic manner."

He was ultimately fined $14,000.

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[–] goodthanks@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dude, the last 30 years in Australia have proved that private industry does not handle public services better than the government. Since you do not live in Australia, you cannot claim to be as informed on this as a local. I wish Americans would stop chiming in on the state of Australia as though they are experts. Your country has the worst healthcare system in the developed world.

[+] shortwavesurfer@monero.town -16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Which is primarily the result of people being willing to pay way too much for those services. We have insurance here and since it comes out of our paychecks we don't really think about it. The way to prevent $500 bandages or $1,000 ambulance rides is to refuse to pay it.

[+] goodthanks@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

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[+] shortwavesurfer@monero.town -10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, unless you're going to be thrown into jail for not paying a debt, you actually don't have to pay it. Especially if the costs are not disclosed beforehand and are exorbitant. Enough people do that and market forces will prevail.

[–] goodthanks@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look, I'm not going to argue with you on this anymore since you seem to be fairly dead set on this idea of private industry and market forces being superior, which they are demonstrably not. The overarching point is that basic human needs like health care, aged care etc. should not have a profit incentive. The only way to remedy that is to invest properly in government services and also hold the political class to account when those services are not adequately delivered.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town -3 points 5 months ago

Yep, we are going to have to agree to disagree.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Man you just can't get any first sentences right can you. Wrong again here. Completely.