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I'd be interested to hear where communism, socialism, or any far left government has ever worked in the real world.
Because there are plenty of examples of it being a nightmare.
If "Freedomville" forces "Commies R US" to close its ports, thereby severely limiting access to trade and goods, is it the fault of Commies R US?
What about if Freedomville goes and funds, trains militias inside Commies R US, which then declare war against Commies R US?
If Commies R US voted for, and elected a commie, why are they not allowed to do so?
Guess it was Freedomville that caused Soviet Russia and China to be so oppressive, right?
Socialism is an economic framework more than anything else. It's obvious that these countries had issues, but saying they were all caused by the way they distribute money is a bit of a stretch.
These countries took bits and pieces of leftwing policies, and then added their own rubbish on top. They don't really represent the modern left, just as the US pre-Civil Rights doesn't represent the ideals of most in the US now. Oppressive social policies exist or have existed under every flavor of government. It's certainly not limited to, or an integral of the left.
Authoritarianism is not Socialism.
So where has the left functioned successfully in the real world?
Many countries have implemented left wing policies with success.
The government of Norway owns a large percent of its resource extraction and oil industry. The revenues are used to provide social services such as free healthcare and education to its citizens.
You obviously won't find Norway on this list, but feel free to scroll through and see if you can find a pattern.
Look up indigenous socialism. Those tend to work. They tend to get crushed by larger powers but they work internally. Unless of course you mean by work you mean be the mightiest. Yeah no.
There's also things like the Paris commune.
'It works untill it doesn't' isn't the best argument for the quality of a system.