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The Android developer just published an updated landing page for Google Messages, showing off key features ranging from customization, privacy and security, and, of course, AI.

On this landing page, there are different sections for each feature set, including one for RCS. As spotted by 9to5Google, if you expand this list of RCS features and scroll to the bottom, you see a section on "Coming soon on iOS: Better messaging for all." That's no surprise: We've known Apple was adopting RCS since November. However, it's the next line that brings the news: "Apple has announced it will be adopting RCS in the fall of 2024."

Of course, this does not say a lot as it is "in the fall" which is anywhere over a couple of months, and Google has tried to embarrass Apple into making moves before. I suppose, though, there is the looming court case against Apple which is anyway keeping pressure on Apple. If it were not for the US court case, I would have guessed Apple may have pulled out after the EU had ruled Apple was not a dominant player in the market (although the EU case was looking more at interoperability with WhatsApp and others in Apple Messages).

Of course, with Apple actually including RCS now, they can probably argue that there is interoperability via RCS between their platform and Android too. It must be remembered that in many countries, like mine, SMS's are paid for so are very expensive to use for any form of chatting, and the costs go up exponentially when you text an international number.

I personally have quite a few issues with interoperability with Apple:

  • I still have AirTags from when I had an iPhone and I daily get the audio beeps warning me the AirTags are not connected (I use an Android phone and alternate between an iPad and an Android tablet)
  • I can't wait to sell my AirTags and get the new one's Google was working on that will interoperate with Apple, but supposedly Apple has been delaying building in that support into their devices (which Google already built into Android for AirTags in 2023)
  • Because I was on Apple Messages and my iPad still sometimes connects, I find a message on my iPad that arrived a week ago which I had not seen (I had Beeper which was solving this problem)

Apple is not at all dominant outside the USA, but it makes interacting with Apple users quite a pain, as Apple has gone out of their way to try to keep their users inside the walled garden.

See https://lifehacker.com/tech/google-just-revealed-when-apple-will-officially-adopt-rcs

#technology #RCS #Apple #interoperability

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 74 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

Watch them be pee-yellow bubbles or something, but still not blue, lol.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Honestly they shouldn’t be blue. I don’t say this out of some kind of elitism, I just mean that the different colored chat bubbles are what currently tell you whether you’re using Apple’s E2EE chat function or plain text SMS. RCS would also support encryption, but currently Apple allows you to opt into tighter security controls that hide your iMessage encryption keys even from Apple when your messages are backed up. Your RCS chat partner opens half of the encrypted end to Google’s security policies which you won’t have any control over. So knowing that I’m using RCS when messaging somebody is something I’d want to be aware of.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I’d assume they’d just be green

Apple hasn’t agreed to implement RCS encryption, but maybe they will anyway

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Right, consider the case of iMessages being green. If you have an iMessage chat with blue bubbles, but try to text from an area with poor reception, it can fail over to SMS. With this scenario, it’s pretty clear why you still want green bubbles to tell you the chat is degraded

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe teal or cyan (green + blue) 😉

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

I like that idea.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe they could just allow users to change the colors of their bubbles as a UI preference option.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Probably too complicated. Just not allowing certain settings for that reason is a very Apple thing to do.

[–] OwnParfait@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Back when the Messages app in macOS supported other services you were able to change the bubble color. But this feature was removed over time…

[–] Silentiea@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

But what if someone accidentally changes the bubble and text colors to an unreadable combination? No. We must protect our users from this obscene nonsense.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

RCS will replace SMS/MMS, not iMessage. Whether it's encrypted or not, Apple will still regard it as being a tier beneath their own solution. So green is the new green.

[–] OwnParfait@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

I don’t mind the different color. Since SMS or RCS can cost money depending on where you are and which contract you have it’s an important information for me if I’m not using iMessage.

[–] paradox2011@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

I hate that so much but you're probably right 😅

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

Don't give them ideas

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Light gray bubbles, white text

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 7 months ago

Apple confirmed they'll be green.