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I don't like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn't going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he's publicly told Israel to "finish up their war". He'll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn't a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it's a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy's, and "sticking it to liberals" and "refusing to support genocide" (that's not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way -- a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump's campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I'll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there's a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Hard pass there, votes are earned, and Biden has given us thousands of reasons why we shouldnt vote for him and none as to why.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

are you worried about what will happen if trump wins?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm worried about what happens if our political elite begin operating with zero accountability. It doesn't matter who that is.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

There wont be accountability left if dump wins.

[–] lemmywinks@discuss.online 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

He might even stop the war with Russia. Could you imagine? Trump was the first President in decades to not start a new war. Could you IMAGINE? No new wars and even ending wars like he did in Afghanistan? THE VERY IDEA!

It's always funny to me how liberals want people to get all puffed up about "what will happen if Trump wins" when in reality pretty much nothing bad happened last time he was President. The economy was booming and he ended the wars Americans wanted ended for over 20 years.

People seem to believe that they have to be hyper focused on identity politics and ignore the bigger picture. Remember during the BLM protests when crazed liberals were screaming the phrase "PEOPLE ARE DYING" with regards to police brutality in the US? Yet where are they now that tanks are literally "rolling over brown bodies" using US taxpayer money?

It's all a scam. Dumb liberals need to wake up and look at the bigger picture and stop being used as pawns by people who hate them.

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I dunno, are tankies even this stupid? Tankies at least typically know that liberal≠progressive. This sounds like an American libertarian, aka "the edgy conversative", to me.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah. They are. They simp for authoritarians. A over hexbear they believe in the "denazification" of Ukraine...

[–] Highlybaked@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

My bet would be Russian troll farmer, putin needs trump to win, It's a transparent argument that ignores Americas undivided support for Israel despite whose president

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

“Stop the war with Russia” by turning it over to them. “Everyone in Ukraine could just shoot tjemselves in the head, rape each other and Russia would be appeased”. Pathetic.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago

Yeah, appeasement works great with glory hungry dictators. What's hilarious is you guys would be arguing the exact opposite of Trump were in charge right now, making up shit about how soft Biden would be on Putin.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He has forgiven student loans, reunited children it their families at the border, and he is the first president to so openly acknowledge and put forth anything towards climate change.

The other option is daddy big boot stamping down on anyone who doesnt think like he.

To push left, all increments of change should be embraced. Those who stage disruptive strikes will get the majority of my respect, but by diversifying efforts we reach further ends.

[–] juicy@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago

reunited children [with] their families at the border

Sure, in outdoor concentration camps:

CNN:

The declarations filed as part of this new legal challenge came from aid workers, attorneys and a doctor, as well as a child and two fathers who were at the camps this month. They allege children have gone days without eating, and at night, their cries can be heard throughout the camp.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

none as to why.

I like that he's doing more to fight climate change

It's also been nice to see money put towards public infrastructure, as opposed to the last guy who put all the money into tax cuts for the rich and racist border walls. We might even get some high speed electric trains soon.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

He just gave us 1800 more reasons today.