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[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 188 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Google photos and apple have been doing it for years too, they’re like we found this person 50 times in your photo collection, why don’t you name them?

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 73 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Apple, afaik, used to be doing this on-device rather than in the cloud. Not quite sure about the situation today.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t. Corps gonna corp, if they can. But I’ve checked this using all the development, networking, and energy monitoring tools at my disposal and apple’s e2e and on-device guarantee does appear to hold. For now.

Still, those who can should audit periodically, even if they’re only doing it for the settlement.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Security is in my interest, but yw

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They were inferencing a cnn on a mobile device? I have no clue but that would be costly battery wise at least.

[–] didnt_readit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They’ve been doing ML locally on devices for like a decade. Since way before all the AI hype. They’ve had dedicated ML inference cores in their chips for a long time too which helps the battery life situation.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 months ago

It couldn’t quite be a decade, a decade ago we only just had the vgg — but sure, broad strokes, they’ve been doing local stuff, cool.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is why it's worth the time to set up Immich.

It even has the same kind of AI object and face recognition as in Google Photos, but it's your own cloud setup and self-hosted software, so all of the data is entirely yours and nobody else's. It's downright strange to think of those things as actual features and not privacy violations.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah it really bothers me that they’re not asking you to compromise only your data, they want you to give them info on your friends/family too (who obviously didn’t agree to the terms and conditions). Thanks for shouting out an alternative.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Amazon asked me to use their photos app to get a $20 gift certificate last week. I uploaded one photo, got the bonus money, deleted the app and used it to help buy a new monitor.

Sometimes these things can be turned into a win.

[–] Huschke@programming.dev 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

So what you are saying is that you gave Amazon access to your device for 20$? Doesn't sound like a good deal to me.

[–] force@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

and what would "access to your device" be (assuming this is android)?

[–] MajorSauce@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Quick guess from me would be permission to use the camera(s) and if they have some kind of file picker or gallery, permission to access all media files from your phone (and older versions of Android did not have this "media"distinction, so they would give access to all user files (excluding sandboxed paths)

[–] force@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You have to manually approve of giving each permission on Android, and camera and files/images are separate permissions (so giving access to the camera doesn't require giving access to your files). And you can make it so they only have access to it while you use the app. If you take a random picture and then uninstall, they get nothing except that random picture.

[–] MajorSauce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, and would you like to take a guess what % of Android user just accepts it as it is?

[–] force@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Presumably not anyone on Lemmy

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

apps are sandboxed. if all they did was upload one pic, what access did amazon really get? I'd do that for $20.