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FAQ

Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?

A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.

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[–] olivebranch@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I am not against voting, but the metaphor is really wrong and it doesn't communicate how voting changes almost nothing.

The problem is that Hilary supported Trump in pied piper strategy to have an easier person to run against. This means that you are doing exactly what they want you to do and they are protecting Trump because they need him to be the other candidate so you are forced to support ice cream made of genocide.

Democrats are terrorists now, that hold the entire country hostage and demand murder of civilians in Gaza for their financial gain. We don't have democracy either way, we will have genocide, wars and poverty either way. There really isn't that big of a difference, because they support each other so they can win against us, the people. They are the same team, funded by same people, running on same campaigns, running the same narrative of lesser evil vs evil, while actually working together.

Their next move is for democrats to support same policies that republicans do now, and fund even more extreme republicans so that can be their candidate. The strategy clearly works. Whatever you are voting against this elections, you will be forced to vote for the next.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Voting isn't going to fix that, but it will delay more of the shit we saw from 2016-2020. If you want to overthrow the government and see actual change happen, you can go first.

[–] olivebranch@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I am not so sure it will delay it. If we get a democrat then they will move the goal post for worse, if we don't we will lose democracy we don't have. During Trump there where some good antigovernment riots due to George Floyd and American army moved out of Afghanistan. During Biden, we got war in Ukraine and increased genocide in Gaza. Altough they both have same goals, there are benefits to having an evil idiot instead of evil smarter person in power.

Either way, you can vote for whoever you want and It won't really hurt. But it definitely wont help either.

[–] femboycuddles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago

May I ask how Biden is responsible for the war in Ukraine? Also how won't voting to enable an evil idiot with intelligent people helping him openly planning on becoming a complete authoritarian dictatorship targeting its political opponents from achieving probably exactly that do harm? I hate to do a nazi germany comparison, but while making Hitler reichskanzler, this was the opinion of the center-conservatives that helped put him there. That definetly did cause Harm and the political situation was really quite similar.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Focusing on the general idea of the last statement of your first paragraph, I completely disagree. I would much rather have a smart evil person in charge over an evil idiot.

A smart evil person will, at the very least, work for their own self-preservation. They can be negotiated with, even reasoned with, because they know that some give and take is required to meet their own goals.

An evil idiot will just break everything and take everyone with them if they don't get what they want simply because they don't understand what it is they are breaking.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah the Democrats are driving us to get ice cream, they are driving us to their private casino after promising ice cream and telling us if we spend enough at the black jack table they might send over a waitress to take our order.

I'm tired of them being framed as good and their ideas as beneficial when really most are just enriching for the already wealthy and have forgotten about sacrifice and effort into the greater good of the common people.

So if our choice is between an actual evil asshole and an abuser who just wants people to shut up so they don't have to hear complaints, I'm not exactly blaming people that dislike both options and view harm reduction as just living with the pain.
We have to do and aim for better or no one will be interested in participating anymore.
I'm already tired of spending my life at the casino surrounded by drunks and addicts, and my only escape being getting on the bus driving to the cliff.

If neither side respects people, then I don't think they deserve them.