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Nelson Peltz, the activist investor agitating to win two Disney board seats, criticized the company’s “woke” strategy — specifically questioning Marvel’s “Black Panther” and “The Marvels,” which featured Black and women leads, respectively.

The 81-year-old Peltz, who has admitted he “never claimed” to have experience in the media business, made the comments about “The Marvels” and “Black Panther” in a recent interview with the Financial Times. “Why do I have to have a Marvel [movie] that’s all women?” Peltz asked rhetorically. “Not that I have anything against women, but why do I have to do that? Why can’t I have Marvels that are both? Why do I need an all-Black cast?”

“Black Panther” does not have an all-Black cast, nor does “The Marvels” have an all-female cast.

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[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 53 points 7 months ago (3 children)

All this ado about "woke" this and "woke" that by the snowflakes... Pathetic.

If Ridley Scott released Alien today snowflakes would have a complete meltdown—imagine that, a black man and two women (neither of whom look like teen anime waifus, the horror!) in a cast! And the roles were written as gender neutral, for crying out loud!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And one of the women survives!

[–] BeardedSingleMalt@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago

The black dude doesn't die first, the women aren't damsels in distress and actually survive and, turns out one of the women is actually trans.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

The broflakes would be crying in their spilt milk.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No... Alien is often used as an example of how to correctly make a strong female character. It's not through lazy writing of a Mary Sue character. Honestly, I think the problem is they don't really have good villains anymore that are a challenge for the hero. It's like they're afraid to show the main character having a weakness or a flaw to overcome.

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Oh, snowflakes would absolutely melt. Remember the gamers going "Waaaaa!😭" about The Last Of Us part 2? Or Horizons: Forbidden West?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But, I'm telling you that those people currently use Ripley as an example of a well written character. There will always be people that whine, but it wouldn't be as many as you're suggesting.

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

...and I'm telling you that if Alien was released today snowflakes who complain about Aloy and Ellie would also enter a meltdown over Ripley.

Duh.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But we don't have to use a hypothetical. Because Alien already exists and is already used as one of their example of good writing. Like I said, some people will complain no matter what, but some are giving valid criticism. There are plenty of examples of things released today with actually well written female characters. For example, the Expanse was full of them, and those people weren't complaining about them. Ignoring criticism just because of who it is coming from is how we get the current state of Marvel and Star Wars. Listening to criticism is how you go from Star Trek Discovery to Star Trek Strange New Worlds.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're being obtuse.

Dipshits hold up Ripley as an example because Alien is an wstablished classic. If it were released today, they would whine about the movie being woke because they are dipshits.

People did complain about the Expanse being woke, and continue to complain about it.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

People did complain about the Expanse being woke, and continue to complain about it.

And there will always be a small group that will complain.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

People are really shitting on that chick from the new Fable game, but I think she's cute as fuck. Just my worthless 2¢, anyway.. Fable chick's fuckable..

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking about the Fredo Corleone lookalike? Damn, you got interesting taste.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, I looked him up and don't see the resemblence. She just seems an average looking black chick with no make-up on to me. A little boyish maybe, but about what I'd expect a female adventurer to realistically look like.

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Black girl? Oh we might be talking about different characters then, this girl was white

[–] femtech@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

new fable game, did i miss a trailer?