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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 80 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I live in a farming community in Saskatchewan, Canada. It's really mind blowing how many farmers don't give two shits about climate change. They're really not unlike heavily profit-driven companies just looking for next quarter gains, completely oblivious to other longer term factors that might be detrimental to their business.

It's sad in a way. This is their livelihood, and rather than adapt to the risk to bring some sort of long term sustainability, they're just looking for that next brand new model of truck to buy when harvest comes in this year.

[–] stabby_cicada 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair

The myth of the humble farmer or small holder living in harmony with his land is as bullshit as the myth of the noble savage. The vast majority of farmers see the planet as a resource to make money from. If they take any heed to local conditions, they think of it in tragedy of the commons style. For instance, in many places around the world, the aquifers irrigating farmland have less than 20 years before they're emptied. Local farmers are aware. They take it as a warning to pump as much water as possible as fast as they can, because if they don't take the water and turn it into profit, someone else will, and the water will still be gone.

And that's not even getting into how these brutal exploitative farming methods are what allowed the Earth's population to balloon to a unsustainable 8 billion and ravage the land and devour resources of every sort.

The vast majority of farmers are the enemy of the planet. In my more green authoritarian moments, I envision nationalizing every acre and setting up eco villages of subsistence farmers populated by the poor of our cities and worked by former corporate middle management reduced to serfdom. No one should own whole square miles of farmland. Not even farmers.

[–] jadero 18 points 8 months ago

I live in a farming community in Saskatchewan, Canada.

Me too. I've talked to a few retired farmers and a couple of active farmers who just shake their heads at all the nonsense, but I would say that you are generally correct.

I know that zero-tillage and high-cut stubble goes a long way to reducing erosion, but I can't help thinking that they've picked the wrong time to get rid of all the tree rows.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where I live, way down South in the USA, the general attitude is God isn't going to let this happen. Most of my neighboring towns are projected to be under water in the next two decades, tops. But God said he wouldn't destroy the earth with floods again...

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Could always point out that God isn’t the one destroying the earth with floods.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

I tried. Have you spent time in conversation with maga and q-adjacent personalities? I maybe changed some perspectives of one. If so, I'm very grateful for both his and my sake. I'll continue to carry the message, but at some point, you move on to the next one, you know?

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 8 months ago

5 years minimum, they're going to protest again against insurance companies because their rates arw going to be on the roof.