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Device to scare fish away? (self.vegan)

submitted 8 months ago by iiGxC to c/vegan

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Is there anything you can bring kayaking, swimming, or really anywhere people are fishing that will scare the fish away from the fishers? Ideally something not very obvious, and for kayaking something you can easily turn on near fishers and off when you're not near them?

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[–] iiGxC -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Authoritarian describes what humans generally do to other species, not efforts to prevent them from being harmed

[–] Forester@yiffit.net -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Authoritarian - adjective - favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, at the expense of personal freedom.

You wish to limit other people's freedoms that's authoritarian. Fish can feel pain, but they definitely do not have a presence of mind. Fish are not people.

Fishing is one of the most sustainable ways to eat and harvest meat. Eat and harvest meat. It is also one of the most environmentally friendly. You should rethink your militant Jainism

[–] Sizzler 1 points 8 months ago

I mean coming into c/vegan and arguing to eat meat is brave for a start.

Then you try to justify with "they don't feel", "they are sustainable", "environmentally friendly".

Fair play, you don't have a clue do you?

[–] iiGxC 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fishing violates their freedom far more than me trying to protect the fish violates the freedom of fishers. But like most injustices, the oppressor sees their oppression being stopped as their rights being taken away.

Is "presence of mind" what gives somone moral relevance? If so, you'd have no problem with someone hunting infants or humans in comas, right?

The people who would be fish-blocked by me do not need to eat or harvest meat, so me trying to stop them is just as "militantly jainist" as trying to stop dog fights, another form of unnecessary violence to other animals.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sure the shark asks for consent before he swims up to the tuna and takes a chunk out of him. Animals eat animals. We are an animal.

[–] iiGxC 2 points 8 months ago

Some humans have the presence of mind to realize we don't need to eat other animals to thrive, and stop because it's not good to cause unnecessary harm