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Google was ordered to identify people who watched certain YouTube videos. Privacy experts say the orders are unconstitutional. (www.forbes.com)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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The court orders show the government telling Google to provide the names, addresses, telephone numbers and user activity for all Google account users who accessed the YouTube videos between January 1 and January 8, 2023. The government also wanted the IP addresses of non-Google account owners who viewed the videos.

“This is the latest chapter in a disturbing trend where we see government agencies increasingly transforming search warrants into digital dragnets. It’s unconstitutional, it’s terrifying and it’s happening every day,” said Albert Fox-Cahn, executive director at the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project. “No one should fear a knock at the door from police simply because of what the YouTube algorithm serves up. I’m horrified that the courts are allowing this.” He said the orders were “just as chilling” as geofence warrants, where Google has been ordered to provide data on all users in the vicinity of a crime.

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[–] Zoboomafoo 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

My theory for #1 is that it's an unlisted video targeted at extremists or maybe a "How to make an illegal item" guide

Which I also think can be reasonable

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

It shouldn't be illegal to learn how to make something illegal. I'm not allowed to build a nuke or a fully automatic assault rifle, but I should still be able to learn how they function.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 17 points 8 months ago

Sounds like it wasn't really illegal (just a mapping / drone thing), as well as the behavior they were looking into wasn't something that was for-certain illegal (just trading cash for crypto, which is I guess "illegal adjacent" but not in itself illegal). IDK. The story as it was told was a little confusing / didn't completely make sense to me on the face of it as the complete story.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would you make up a reason to justify the government seizing people's data? Like damn I thought lemmy cared about privacy but this thread is wild with some of the comments I'm reading.

They were videos about using drones and AR to create maps. There's nothing illegal about that.

https://mashable.com/article/google-ordered-to-hand-over-viewer-data-privacy-concerns

[–] OpenTTD@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah, this is hella sketchy. I don't plan on ever using Google's services again, but now I legit have to worry about all centralized websites in the US? I've been impressed with Biden at many points and screw Trump, but this is not a good look for the Biden Administration.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Reading information on how to make an illegal item has never been justification for accusing someone of a crime. Remember the Anarchist's Cookbook? Hell I can look up articles online all day long about how to build an atomic bomb, but until I go out of my way to obtain the nuclear material required to build it (which private citizens are not allowed to purchase) there is nothing anyone can do about it other than ask why I'm so interested in the subject.