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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Real-world CO2 emissions of cars are 20% higher than indicated. For plug-in hybrids they are 250% higher. (climate.ec.europa.eu)

submitted 7 months ago by hanrahan to c/collapse@lemmy.ml

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EDIT: the article is from the European Commission. This thing comes from a serious study based on hard facts and data. Check this comment by @wooster@startrek.website, who reported the data

It's not a typo: plug-in hybrids are used, in real word cases, with ICE much more than anticipated.

In the EU, fuel consumption monitoring devices are required on new cars. They studied over 10% of all cars sold in 2021 and turns out they use way more fuel, and generate way more CO2, than anybody thought.

The gap means that CO2 emissions reduction objectives from transport will be more difficult to reach.

Thruth is, we need less cars, not "better" cars.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago

Electric drivetrains are incredibly durable. They basically have one moving part - the rotor in the electric motor. Everything else is wiring and if it's done correctly and not damaged it'll last as long as the wiring in your house. Plus, the regenerative braking in the hybrid means that your brakes will last longer, and the engine has less stress on it so those components last a little longer, too.

My parents had one of the first 100 Priuses imported into the US and it lasted for 15 years with no major maintenance issues until my niece totaled it in a crash. If that hadn't happened I think it would still be on the road.