Afaik, whenever an Activitypub instance has defederated from another it has always had to do with some combination of bad user behavior, poor moderation, and/or spam. Are the various instance admins who have decided to preemptively block threads.net simply convinced that these traits will be inevitable with it? Is it more of a symbolic move, because we all hate Meta? Or is the idea to just maintain a barrier (albeit a porous one) between us and the part of the Internet inhabited by our chuddy relatives?

(For my part, I'm working on setting up my own Lemmy and/or Pixelfed instance(s) and I do not currently intend to defederate.)

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[–] Kichae@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Anything that lands on Meta's servers is open for Meta's use, however they see fit. Providing free training data for their algorithms just isn't something everyone here is ok with.

Many of us are here consciously because we're anti-corporate exploitation, not merely because our previous hangout spot fucked around, and Meta is king shit of corporate exploitation, and we want nothing to do with anything that's helping them.

[–] farcaller@fstab.sh 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Isn’t it subject to the same GDPR rules that the whole of fediverse pretends they don’t exist? All it takes is asking facebook what they have on you and unlike some “depersonalized” identifier you can ask for your data based on the activitypub id. It's actually much easier to go after a big corp with such a request as opposed to some random mastodon or lemmy instance.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

meta abide privacy laws

you funny

[–] farcaller@fstab.sh 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would suggest you to sent a GDPR request to facebook (if you’re in a position to be covered by GDPR and have a facebook account) and to your lemmy instance (being lemmy.world).

Facebook will have a bunch more data on you, undoubtedly, but it will take no time for them to process the request.

Lemmy? Good luck with that. First try finding their privacy page and see what data they actually collect on you. Whom they send it to process. Try reaching the admins maybe? Lemmy has no tooling whatsoever to help with that so they will have to get their hands dirty with postgresql, too.

I like fb no more than anyone in this thread but let's be realistic. They do have a much better story of complying with GDPR specifically than anything in fediverse.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

https://techcrunch.com/2023/05/22/facebook-eu-us-data-flows-decision/

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