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Pretty much the title. Where's the hate towards Manjaro coming from? I was pretty much a Ubuntu/Fedora user for years but never got too technical. Used almost always gnome, but recently got interested in tiling wm and have done some searches and stumbled upon the Manjaro Sway edition and everything works quite well, but I keep seeing people bashing on Manjaro and I don't know exactly why. So if I were to use sway in Arch or Arco (way friendlier to install) if there any simple way to replicate the makeup sway default configuration?

Thank you all for your time.

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[–] moreeni@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Arch is about DIY approach. Arch derivatives for "making it easy" are a joke because they defeat the whole point of doing it yourself

[–] IDe@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doing it yourself is fine as an educational exercise for newbies, but skilled linux users generally have better things to do than to do the setup by hand for the nth time. On the other hand the "vanilla"/bleeding-edge approach of Arch makes it one of the best bases for derivative distros available, so basing your distro on it is a no-brainer for many.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but skilled linux users generally have better things to do than to do the setup by hand for the nth time.

Had this fine skilled linux user over there heard about archinstall scripts?

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thought Arch was all about DIY?

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is but if you still want to have an "easy install" you might go with an archinstall script that usually happens to be "lighter" than a derivative distro

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or just use a distro that sets everything up for you.

Seems like anything is the solution except that in your mind, lol.

Glad we have option 😎

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or just use a distro that sets everything up for you

You didn't even get my point but had the audacity to write that second sentence :-/

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your point was that users can use arch install scripts to automate some of the setup process.

I countered by saying they could just use a distro that has an installer integrated directly into it.

I also added that in your mind, there is no legitimate reason to use an arch derivative. This highlights your bias.

What was I missing, exactly?

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pragmatism above all else, at least for some.

I'm glad we have the option to choose between configuring our entire system or having one that's configured for us.

There is no one-size fits all answer to computing.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Having one configured for us is about Fedora or Debian or some other distro like that