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[โ€“] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they did not export capital by keeping countries from industrializing, nor did they have a financial oligarchy like imperial core countries.

Disagree. They definitely did repress the Soviet block counties for their own good. And they definitely had an oligarchy, though it wasn't as straightforwardly financial.

But it sounds like you're using definitions that try to exclude countries that are nominally communist from terms like imperialist, so I can't really do much to argue with your definitions. I'd just say that your definitions aren't what I use or what are commonly used.

[โ€“] Arelin@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What do you mean "repressed"? Soviet states industrialized because of the USSR and its heavy focus on rapid industrialization.

The current extraction of raw materials from post-Soviet states is because of the forced privatization and de-industrialization under capitalism. Which included Russia until very recently; they've started nationalizing some of these industries again, though now under capitalist rule and primarily for their benefit.