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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives aren't used to the concept of "Problems go away when you do something about them."

They are stuck in the mindset of "The problem will always be with us, so just shame those suffering from it and isolate them so we don't catch their problem."

[–] bumphot@lemy.lol -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To be honest, this is not just conservatives.

[–] TheOtherThyme@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Naw, this is literally the conservative mind set. Even if someone doesn't vote for republicans, thinking like this is conservative thinking.

[–] bumphot@lemy.lol -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is also the liberal mind set.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] bumphot@lemy.lol -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So what are your views on liberals that support Biden regardless of his funding of genocide in Palestine? To me it seems exactly like this mind set of "we can't fix this, lets just not let their problem spill over to us".

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

My view is that I would prefer someone younger and with similar ideals as Bernie but in reality, we have a choice between Biden and a man that given the chance, would end liberal's right to vote forever.

I feel like people that bitch and complain about Biden do not at all understand the danger we are all in if Trump wins because the vote is split. Republicans do not have a conscience. They are more than happy to band together despite their disagreements if it means that they win. I just wonder why in the fuck anyone would risk that happening again given the decades of harm Trump caused in one term.

So am I happy about voting for Biden? No not really. It bothers the fuck out of me that Israel has the support it does. But the reality is that Trump and the modern republican party are about [] that close to reinacting the night of broken glass and Id rather that not happen.

[–] bumphot@lemy.lol -5 points 8 months ago

I don't think you understand the point of view people critisizing Biden. Democrats are the ones that put Trump in power, just so they can have an easier elections and don't have to place more popular candidates to run against them. Voting for Biden is simply accepting defeat, that their plan worked and that they can do absolutely anything and you will support them because they will also support a worse candidate on the other side at the same time. It is not looking at the big picture, long term. In the future they can get someone like Trump to be a Democrat candidate and support someone even worse on the Republican side and you will have to vote for them under exactly the same situation. Democrats have a candidate that literarlly funds a genocide and we would think that once that line is crossed people would simply say that is enough, but apparently even Hitler would be elected in US elections as long as he places someone worse as prime candidate of another party.