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Parent company is operated out of China, actually company is operated out of Singapore, US, Europe.
You referring to Hamas? They barely have Internet access, and they certainly don't get any special treatment on the app. The people criticizing Israel are not terrorists or terrorist sympathizers, and mislabeling them as such doesn't do you any favors. And TikTok has been allegedly suppressing any videos talking about that subject.
Wrong. The only people making me hate my government is my government. I actually realized that Republicans pushed me left, but it was mostly the left that pushed me so far left that I want my guns back.
You don't understand how many people are on the app and their demographics do you?
Where do they make decisions about the algorithm that decides what you're seeing on TikTok? That's what's relevant here.
Also Huawei played similar games, but we later found out how connected it was basically just a branch of the Chinese government. If you believe the shell company shenanigans, it's probably because you've spent a lot of time on TikTok.
I'm pretty sure the billionaire leaders of Hamas living in palaces in Qatar have internet access. Did Tik Tok not tell you that there are literal billionaires that are leaders of Hamas? Loses some of the appeal when you realize it isn't some rag tag group of freedom fighters but actually a fascist movement that wants to restore the ethnic makeup of a region to how it was in old maps. Something to think about when you see people cosplaying as Hamas at the protests.
Did you hear this on TikTok?
You don't even have a cohesive concept of any kind of politics, other than hating your own government. Where did that come from? You obviously don't put a lot of thought into political issues if you swing from one party to the next and you admit the only consistency you have is a hatred of your own government. You've just proven my point about TikTok influencing you into hating your government.
Somewhere between 150 to 170 million Americans get their news from TikTok. Do you think that if there's more people getting news from a source where the relevant news stories could be decided by an authoritarian country somehow makes it less of a concern?
We know a lot of people use TikTok, and we know that ultimately authoritarians decide what is shown to people on that site. We know that people on TikTok are being fed disinformation, we know that people are being pushed towards being sympathetic towards terrorist movements. It has all of the signs of a campaign to destabilize western countries. But maybe TikTok has influenced you towards wanting to destroy your own country.
You fundamentally misunderstood several of my points and I'm assuming it was intentional.
You don't know who makes decisions on algorithms, so you're speculating without evidence.
I'm not surprised Hamas leaders are rich, they've been funded by Israel. Also, good job proving my point that you see any criticism of Israel as Hamas sympathy. That's like assuming every Democrat that criticizes Biden is a secret Republican. That's delusional and undermines your argument.
TikTok censorship has been reported outside of TikTok. Just like other social media. Why even argue on that point? That's something you should latch onto that we actually agree on.
I don't swing from one party to the next. I have moved further and further left BECAUSE of my government. You intentionally missed my point again. I have an excellent understanding of politics and that's WHY I hate the government. TikTok is separate from that entirely. I hate the Chinese government, and the Russian government, and most governments tbh. And we could spend hours discussing my politics, but that's just distracting from my very obvious point.
Never seen a straw man so fragile. You don't know many of the things you claim to know, especially my motivations. But I can guess at your pro Israel intentions
From a third party perspective I think you sound pretty much like how that user has painted you.
Thank you for the third party perspective. Maybe I should edit my original comment to be more clear about what I'm trying to say
Do you criticize the people cosplaying as Hamas in the photos of basically every Palestinian protest I see? Maybe you should tell them that Hamas is funded by the Jews.
You've gone too deep. You've fallen prey to the old antisemitic ideas that the Jews are secretly puppeteering every bad thing that happens in the world. This is a very old pattern we've seen before. Keep people constantly angry so they can't think straight. Inject conspiracy theories about an ethnic group doing evil things. Tell people they can't trust anything that disagrees with the narrative because they're secretly in league with that evil ethnic group.
Kind of on the nose that you're going with the Jews being the secret puppet masters. I mean it should be obvious by now what those conspiracy theories lead to. Look at the photos of German cities at the end of WWII. That is the end result of this kind of rhetoric. Then when you look at the images of Gaza being blasted at you non-stop, you might start to understand the pattern that you're a part of.
It's not the Jews that made Hamas what it is, that's just an insane antisemitic conspiracy theory. It's hatred towards Jews that made it what it is. October 7 happened because of hatred towards Jews. You're witnessing the destruction caused by hatred. You should ask more questions about the hatred that they're creating within you.
There was hope that the younger generation wouldn't fall for this kind of thing. But the cycle just continues on. Maybe the next generation will understand that they aren't too special to not become a part of this cycle of hatred and will be able to break it.
History does not judge those that promote antisemitism well.
God damn. You want full crazy.
Here you go
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
I criticize Israel. Not the Jewish as a whole. I'll criticize any country that commits genocide.
By the way, by arguing with me (a gay person) that makes you homophobic. Does that seem silly? It's the same argument you just spent 5 paragraphs trying to make. Get a grip
The article is saying that it was a mistake to ever negotiate with Hamas. Are you saying you agree with that? There's currently a negotiation for a ceasefire with Hamas, by negotiating with Hamas that would be "propping them up" according to this article. So I'm concluding from this you're against there being a ceasefire. Is that correct?
I don't think it is. You're not thinking about anything rationally, you're reading everything you see as "Israel is evil" without any kind of critical analysis. You have no coherent position on anything other than you hate Israel. You're dog whistling antisemitism, and you may not even be aware of it because you're just repeating whatever you see in TikTok, certain that if you emulate the righteous anger you're seeing from those you have a para-social relationships with you'll be in the right.
Going along with the group on antisemitism isn't anything invented by TikTok. It's just concentrated it and made it much more addictive.
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damn you got some long arms, never seen a reach like that before.
This conversation is spiraling. I'm not going to argue with someone who misrepresents my intentions or character. Or someone who blindly defends Israel despite obvious issues with its leadership. We could go in circles forever with your increasingly conspiratorial assumptions and accusations. I'm just gonna end it here before you sprain an ankle jumping to conclusions.